Why not B2P like GW2?

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Why not B2P like GW2?

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LibertySol

07.26.2012 , 01:31 PM \| #51	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by lafr Ok "We have a great business right now and we're not looking to make any abrupt changes." And, sorry Did I 'lost' something? That isn't the same thing and you know it. That's typical PR talk that every company does. No one's going to say "We're in serious trouble and we're going to make an abrupt change". What it means is they won't bad mouth the game and they'll continue to watch how things go and make a decision based off that which very could be a change in buisness model.

Nyoro

07.26.2012 , 01:32 PM \| #52	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by LibertySol So, when we say that there are currently eight dungeons, we really mean there are thirty-two dungeons, as each dungeon has a story version and three explorable versions." Thanks for that. I needed a good laugh.
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cipero

07.26.2012 , 01:34 PM \| #53	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by ElitehunterDS -Having to buy the best looking gear in-game -Having to buy an expansion April 28, 2005 (original release of the game, 60$) April 28, 2006 Guild Wars Factions, 40$ October 27, 2006 Guild Wars Nightfall, 40$ August 31st, 2007 Guild Wars Eye of the North, 40$ with no real "content" patch in between, i dont see how its better. And you think SWTOR Expansions are going to be free? What kinda crack you smokin? Also if you consider aviators and town clothes the best looking gear in the game..more power to ya because GW's store has a whopping number of ZERO items with stats on them for sale. Nice try
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Ensquire

07.26.2012 , 01:36 PM \| #54	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah Here's a scary thought..... soon GW2 will go live and after a few weeks the locusts and armchair experts will pronounce it "FAIL" and "cooked and finished"..... which pretty much only leaves them Pandaland to use as their success benchmark forecast to compare to so the forums will get Panda'ed big time. That is going to be some funny doodoo. The funniest part about when GW2 gets pronounced "FAIL" is that they cannot claim it will go F2P in 30 or 60 days. How can something fail when you don't pay for a subscription? This game we are customers, and most of the resentment comes from paying $15 a month and getting very little in return. Most customers who have left do not think this is a very good value, so to these people, this method and what they are getting is fail. I fail to understand how a B2P could ever be considered fail The only month i think they deserved $15 was the month they put out the Rakghoul event and put out the custom hub editor (which was the same month)
----------------------------- R.I.P. BIOWARE OCT 11, 2007 -----------------------------

KeepMe

07.26.2012 , 01:40 PM \| #55	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Ensquire How can something fail when you don't pay for a subscription? What you need to sub for a game to have it fail? What world are you living in.

KhealThar

07.26.2012 , 01:41 PM \| #56	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Nyoro The game features a whopping 8 dungeons (3 at endgame) and no endgame raids. As far I'm concerned that is no PvE endgame. I don't even know why you're championing GW2 here anyway, shouldn't you be on the Anet forums? What is endgame? Is end game grinding dailies, doing Raids and dungeons? If so then no, Guild Wars probably isn't a game you should play. If endgame is something like exploring towns, doing puzzle events to get chests, partaking in World vs World vs World battles with 3 entire servers against eachother, or Structured pvp tournaments then hell yeah GW2 has end game content. The best part about GW2 is, it isn't a boring grind fest with a carrot on a stick, all end game armor is purely cosmetic and doesn't require a 6 month grind to be competitive. The main reason the MMO genre is so stagnant these days is because everyone wants just a carbon copy of the last big MMO ie: raids, grinding dailies and dungeons, that's boring. I can't speak for you but I'm burnt out on raiding and grinding dungeons. I want a world that is worth exploring and FUN things to do. Guild Wars 2 developers have captured this feeling and they don't even require a sub fee. What end game content does SWTOR have this is so super awesome and worthy of your 15$?
Those who beg for mercy are too weak to deserve it.

Ensquire

07.26.2012 , 01:48 PM \| #57	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by KeepMe What you need to sub for a game to have it fail? What world are you living in. I fail to understand how you can deem it a failure, if you pay for a boxed game and your not paying for a sub. Unless the game is horrid and no-one purchases the boxed game to begin with Players are typically more forgiving if there not paying for a subscription fee
----------------------------- R.I.P. BIOWARE OCT 11, 2007 -----------------------------

LibertySol

07.26.2012 , 01:48 PM \| #58	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by KeepMe What you need to sub for a game to have it fail? What world are you living in. There are two ways for an MMO to fail in the normal sense. No one buys it. No one subscribes. Obviously millions will buy it. And there's no subscription. The only way for GW2 to fail is if their servers are totally empty after release.

Ensquire

07.26.2012 , 01:51 PM \| #59	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by LibertySol There are two ways for an MMO to fail in the normal sense. No one buys it. No one subscribes. Obviously millions will buy it. And there's no subscription. The only way for GW2 to fail is if their servers are totally empty after release. Having said that, They have free server transfers at launch, so players can migrate as soon as they feel the server isn't to their liking, I doubt server issues for GW2 are going to be the same ones they had with the TOR I think the difference is if i get tired of that game specifically, there's nothing preventing me from not coming back two or three months down the road, where as this game presents barriers for the players return
----------------------------- R.I.P. BIOWARE OCT 11, 2007 -----------------------------

Nyoro

07.26.2012 , 01:52 PM \| #60	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by KhealThar What is endgame? Is end game grinding dailies, doing Raids and dungeons? If so then no, Guild Wars probably isn't a game you should play. If endgame is something like exploring towns, doing puzzle events to get chests, partaking in World vs World vs World battles with 3 entire servers against eachother, or Structured pvp tournaments then hell yeah GW2 has end game content. The best part about GW2 is, it isn't a boring grind fest with a carrot on a stick, all end game armor is purely cosmetic and doesn't require a 6 month grind to be competitive. The main reason the MMO genre is so stagnant these days is because everyone wants just a carbon copy of the last big MMO ie: raids, grinding dailies and dungeons, that's boring. I can't speak for you but I'm burnt out on raiding and grinding dungeons. I want a world that is worth exploring and FUN things to do. Guild Wars 2 developers have captured this feeling and they don't even require a sub fee. What end game content does SWTOR have this is so super awesome and worthy of your 15$? I'm not arguing that the game has better PvP, it's a PvP focused game and is designed and balanced around PvP which would explain why they don't care much for PvE endgame. Anyway I played 3 of the beta weekends but didn't manage to log more than a couple of hours for the last one. The story was beyond lame, Group quests are just click this or zerg 100 of that while hoping you don't get instagibbed; exploring is kinda forced since you need to visit every part of the map to level up. Again I'm not trying to argue whether it's a bad game or not(the coming months will decide that) but I can tell it's not for me. FPS offer me a better PvP experience and WoW/SWTOR offer a better PvE experience with actual progression so I'd rather stick with that.
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