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My pyrotech build :)


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Boomsyn
12.19.2011 , 03:54 AM | #1
I saw someone post asking about a Pyrotech DPS guide / build, and i was sort of shocked to see there really wasn't one. So i built the spec im currently using / will use and wanted to share with everyone

vvvvvvvvvvvvvvv THE BUILD vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301hMZMsMZfhrbzGhMc.1

^^^^^^^^^^^^ THE BUILD ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Choice explanation, step by step -

Pyrotech tree :

First tier -

3/3 Bursting Flame - Since Combustible Gas Cylinder will be our main "blaster clip" or stance, this talent really shines. It guarantees to land the DoT that CGC provides. Works very well with later talents.

2/2 Iron Fist - We will use Rocket Punch on CD possible, so this is a worthy talent to an awesome skill.

Second Tier -

3/3 Superheated Gas - The DoT from our cylinder now ticks 30% harder, and can be applied more easily when utilizing Unload or Rapid shots. Helps when trying to maintain heat without spamming skills, but wanting to maintain the DoT.

2/2 Sweltering heat - Applies a snare for 2 seconds every time the DoT from CGC is applied or refreshed. It actually can help a ton when adds spawn on bosses and run straight for the healer. I know it isn't a DPS increase, but it is nice utility to have.

2/2 Gyroscopic Alignment Jets - A chance to vent 8 heat when hit with pretty much any disable? Yes please! We are in melee a lot and get stunned / knocked back constantly, and every bit of heat dump helps out!

Third tier -

2/2 Superheated Rail - A 30% armor ignore on Rail Shot!? Yes please! Add on top of that the fact that this automatically refreshes the DoT from CGC, and vents 8 heat if the DoT from CGC is active, it basically cuts the cost of Rail Shot in half if your DoT is up. Combined with later talents in the tree, It makes rail shot a way to constantly vent 8 heat with zero cost.

1/1 Incendiary Missile - It hits weak initially, but provides stable damage over time otherwise. An absolute must for the talent in provides in the next tier.

Fourth Tier -

2/2 Rapid Venting - Makes your Vent Heat cool down 30 seconds shorter, which is nice for "oh ****" ability spamming situations, which CAN happen.

3/3 Prototype Particle Accelerator - This GODLY talent is what makes Pyrotech shine IMO! It gives your rocket punch a 45% chance and your Flame burst a 30% chance to automatically refresh your rail shot and make the next cast of it FREE! Combined with the earlier tier talent, Superheated Rail, it basically makes Rail shot provide 8 heat vented when this procs (AS LONG AS THE DOT FROM CGC IS UP). You will know when it procs because:
1. Your Rail Shot will refresh (duh)
2. Your character will let out an evil, cocky laugh!

Fifth Tier -

3/3 Rain of Fire - This bad boy makes most of our core skills do 9% more damage to targets on fire. Folks, things we target are always on fire. This makes this talent a no brainer.

2/2 Firebug - By this late in the tier, you probably notice that you have gained a respectable amount of critical strike chance. Well, this talent makes your DoTs crit harder, and your Rail Shot (more importantly) crit WAY harder. This talent rocks!

Sixth Tier -

3/3 Burnout - Increases tech crit chance by 3% (our special abilities) and makes your DoTs tick 30% harder on targets at or below 30% HP. Wonderful for boss fights when that last stretch can be very painful. The crit REALLY works well other talents, and the talents we still have to choose!

The Advanced Prototype Tree -

Tier 1 -

3/3 Puncture - This sucker gives Rail Shot 60% more armor penetration, and, combined with Superheated Rail, gives your rail shot a NINETY PERCENT armor reduction bonus. IT turns rail shot into the hard hitting train wreck it is supposed to be.

3/3 Prototype Burn Enhancers - A ton of our damage comes from fire damage, and this just throws out more crit for us. Great talent.

Tier 2 -

1/1 Prototype Cylinders - Gives us another 3% critical strike chance for our special attacks when we are using CGC.

2/2 Hot Iron - We use Flame Burst A LOT as a Pyrotech, so any extra damage we can give it is worthwhile.

Shield Tech Tree -

Tier 1 -

3/3 Intimidation - Gives all of our fire damage 6% more OOMPH. Thats what im talking about .

2/2 Rail Loaders - Makes our infamous Rail Shot hit even harder! Combined with the previously mentioned Rain of Fire, as long as our target is on fire, Rail shot will now do 15% extra damage !

........ And thats my build and reasoning!

NOTE : I ALWAYS TRY TO STAY AROUND 40 HEAT. IT WORKS BEST THIS WAY FOLKS! WATCH YOUR HEAT

IM- Incendiary Missile
UL - Unload
FB- Flame burst
RS - Rail Shot
RP - Rocket Punch



ROTATION -

SINGLE TARGETS -

When engaging single target, I open like this -

Open with Incendiary missile... its our longest lasting DoT and automatically sets the target on fire, cause most of our abilities to hit harder. We need our target to be on fire so that it takes more damage !

After the missile, you can choose to either use Unload, or rush the target to get in range for Flame Burst. If you use Unload first, haul *** up to the target afterwards and use Flame burst. If you use flame burst first, skip unload for now.

Next we rail shot, it refreshes the DoT from CGC that was applied by flame burst.

We immediately Rocket Punch afterwards, and if it procs Rail shot...

WE RAIL SHOT! Thats the point of this spec. It will refresh the dot from Flame burst again.

Flame burst until Rail shot procs or hit unload and then flame burst. IF rail shot isn't proccing, watch your Heat and make sure it doesnt get to high above 40. Spam Rapid shots a few times to give rocket punch a chance to refresh and keep our heat low

IM > UL > FB > RS > RP > RS IF IT PROCS, UL if its up, FB > RS if it PROCS >RP (repeat)
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FB if RS doesnt proc > WATCH HEAT, FB as needed and Rapid shots.

AOE TARGETS -

Tons of AoE? Death from above! (make sure the tank has agro before blasting this off)

Death from above not an option? Utilize Explosive dart and position yourself to do maximum damage with Flame Thrower! Thats about it for AoE. We really don't want to spam Flame Sweep (it builds way to much heat too quickly when spammed) and most of the time the AoE from group members will add up to dead mobs. If they are alive, finish them off quickly with rocket punch, flame burst, or even rail shot.

Its 4 A.M. and i know this is sloppy. Make suggestions and ill fix it! Don't agree with my build? Please state why and be constructive, not some rude pompous ***!

THANKS FOLKS!

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ShockDevil
12.19.2011 , 05:30 AM | #2
Good constructive post, very helpful thanks.

Would like to see more of this on the forums.

I was thinking about going for a dedicated rail shot of doom build:

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#30...rRbcoZfhrbzh.1
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Altephor
12.19.2011 , 09:09 AM | #3
Edit* Nevermind misread

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Torothin
12.19.2011 , 11:20 AM | #4
Nice post. Why did you not max out endurane at bottom of pyro tree? 3% extra HP not worth it to you?

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BloatedGuppy
12.19.2011 , 02:44 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Boomsyn View Post
Its 4 A.M. and i know this is sloppy. Make suggestions and ill fix it! Don't agree with my build? Please state why and be constructive, not some rude pompous ***!
Some brief thoughts...

1. It's hard to support going 28 points deep into Pyrotech and NOT grabbing Thermal Detonator. It's one of the hardest hitting single target abilities you'll have, at a low heat cost. Yes, it shares a cooldown with explosive dart, but you're likely to always want one or the other. On a boss fight where you're constantly cycling through a high damage rotation, or in PvP where you may want to burst a target down as quickly as possible, you're going to be missing this.

2. The treats in Advance Prototype are hard to pass up, especially the extra 60% armor piercing on rail shot, but you're passing up 9% Aim in Shield Tech, which is a flat damage increase to all your abilities.
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Teacosy
12.20.2011 , 08:44 AM | #6
the "rail shot of doom spec loses 9% damage to rail shot and other pyro abilities and 30% crit damage on pyrotech abilities.

do you REALLY think its worth it just to get retractable blade and 2 chances every 10 or so secodns for ur rail shot to crit?

personally i think not.

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301hMbZ0cZfhbrzGhrs.1

thats the build i shall be going.

@ OP. my build compared to urs. i gain : Crits knock the CD of Override by 6seconds.
6% Aim
Thermal Detonator

You Gain : 6% Damage to Flame burst
3% Crit
6% Fire crit
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Teacosy
12.20.2011 , 08:49 AM | #7
also, why the hell are you prioritizing unload?

Priority that makes sense is IM-> Rail Shot -> Rocket Punch -> Flame Burst

why you would want to waste heat on an unload when you have flame burst which has the chance to proc a rail is beyond me.
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BloatedGuppy
12.20.2011 , 09:00 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Teacosy View Post
also, why the hell are you prioritizing unload?

Priority that makes sense is IM-> Rail Shot -> Rocket Punch -> Flame Burst

why you would want to waste heat on an unload when you have flame burst which has the chance to proc a rail is beyond me.
Unload procs a Rail Shot about 90% of the time too, and does really good damage for the heat it costs (a way better damage per heat ratio than Flame Burst, tbh). The only issue I have with Unload is the long channel, which is time I could be using to close the distance to the target.

Unless you're talking about resetting the cooldown on Railshot with prototype Particle Accelerator. At which point it would take more theorycrafting than I have the patience for to determine whether or not Unloads better damage/heat is outweighed by Flame Burst's 30% chance to reset Rail Shot.
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Teacosy
12.20.2011 , 09:08 AM | #9
Unload doesnt proc rail shot, it procs CGS. and doesnt even have a 100% chance to proc it. Flame burst in the OPs spec has a damage modifier on it already because of his choice of talents.

Flame burst also has a 100% chance to proc CGS which deals its first tick on application. Making flame burst do added damage. Flame burst also has the chance to refresh the cooldown on ur rail shot and to also make that rail shot free. Thus making u vent 8 heat in total which is where Pyrotechs heat venting comes from.

So u either have a chance to proc CGS with slightly higher based damage, that isnt affected by any of the + fire damage and fire tech crit chance talents that you already have.

or you have slightly lower base damage, with a 100% chance to isntantly proc CGS. You then have the chance to refresh rail which is our hardest hittign ability, and to vent 8 heat while doing so. You also have the added bonuses of all teh talents that affect flame burst.

IMO : Not a very hard thing to work out is it not?

edit : Forgot to add, flame burst can be used on the move and its damage is applied instantly. Melee classes do not want to be stationary while doing dps. because if u use ur unload. then oh look gotta move. 16 wasted for no damage at all.
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BloatedGuppy
12.20.2011 , 09:20 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Teacosy View Post
Unload doesnt proc rail shot, it procs CGS. and doesnt even have a 100% chance to proc it. Flame burst in the OPs spec has a damage modifier on it already because of his choice of talents.

Flame burst also has a 100% chance to proc CGS which deals its first tick on application. Making flame burst do added damage. Flame burst also has the chance to refresh the cooldown on ur rail shot and to also make that rail shot free. Thus making u vent 8 heat in total which is where Pyrotechs heat venting comes from.

So u either have a chance to proc CGS with slightly higher based damage, that isnt affected by any of the + fire damage and fire tech crit chance talents that you already have.

or you have slightly lower base damage, with a 100% chance to isntantly proc CGS. You then have the chance to refresh rail which is our hardest hittign ability, and to vent 8 heat while doing so. You also have the added bonuses of all teh talents that affect flame burst.

IMO : Not a very hard thing to work out is it not?

edit : Forgot to add, flame burst can be used on the move and its damage is applied instantly. Melee classes do not want to be stationary while doing dps. because if u use ur unload. then oh look gotta move. 16 wasted for no damage at all.

Compelling argument, to be sure. So once talented for the 30% proc chance for Rail Shot, would you recommend dropping Unload entirely save for those rare occasions where you're fighting at 30M for some reason? Or would you drop Unload even before that?
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