Pro-skippers, politeness will get you further

ALWAYS establish what the Space Bar etiquette is going to be...This is about on the level of importance as looting rules.
And if the agreed rule is no skipping then you are not aloud to [censored] about people not skipping.

FTFY

Enough words for you now forum?

If you don't want to watch the story, consider forming your own group in general chat.

It's a story MMO. Watch the cutscenes or go back to WoW or that rubbish called Guild Wars Two. Star Wars: The Old Republic isn't the place for those that hate story.

I really love the way this has become.

Is it really so hard to be polite and respectful and find out how each person would like to do the flashpoint? What about those that want to roleplay in the flashpoint?

How difficult is it to find out beforehand and show a little respect and common courtesy. How come when it comes to you your time is more important than someone else? Everyone time is the same and just because you may think your time is more important is not true. Everyone time is the same.

You may get in groups that 3 want to spacebar and if so then you spacebar but the vote could also go the other way and if it is tied you have no right to stand there and argue and "try" to convince the others to your way of thinking.

Try a little common courtesy and respect. It works better than being a jerk about it and that is exactly what you are doing when you demand your way or tell someone to go form your own group. You don't have to group with them if you don't want to but you also have no right demanding the others see your way.

And just because you think the hard mode is for "speed run" doesn't mean everyone does.

Everyone time is important and everyone has paid to play the game the way they enjoy.

This thread has inspired me to watch every cutscene in every group finder flashpoint I end up in on my healer and tank. Thanks to all for the encouragement!

Right idea, 100% wrong application. Someone wanting to watch cutscenes is the DEFAULT. They should not have to state any intention to enjoy the cutscene (and perhaps see new responses than previous times).

If someone wants to Speed Run, THEY should be the ones to state their intention and get sign-off from the group. It is entirely encumbent upon the Speed Runners to ask. Speed Runners should NEVER expect that "speed run" is how a FP will be performed. This includes ASKING if bonuses or bosses can be skipped. Not demanding, not expecting. You'd be amazed at how much smoother things go with a little simple courtesy.

And for Yoda's sake, IF you do a speed run, AT LEAST WAIT FOR OTHER PLAYERS TO RELOAD/HEAL/SCAVENGE before you engage the next mob. And DO NOT start an attack immediately upon exiting an elevator UNTIL THE REST OF THE GROUP HAS ALSO EXITED THE ELEVATOR. Once you start an attack, other players are blocked from using elevators until an entire attack is over.

And you Speed Runners - ever heard of cc? Yeah, give the other members of your party the chance to use their cc's intelligently before you just leap into the fray. If I'm the Healer and you leap into the next full mob without giving the group a chance to plan and cc - OOPS, you don't get any heals. Everyone else will. After you die (and you will), I'll say "wow, imagine how much better that would have gone for you if we had cc'ed the group and you got heals?"

I don't mind Speed Runs and Spacebarring if someone asks nicely, but I'm tired of constantly playing catch-up to others who dash ahead while I reload my healer. If you don't want to wait for me, I kinda don't want to heal you. On the other hand, simple courtesy and cooperation has made MANY a FP, including Speed Runs, a blast to play, with the group all enjoying, "good game!"ing everyone and making Friend Lists for future runs.

Wow. Community! Who'd a thunk it?

Agreed - I rarely skips cutscenes no matter how many times I have seen them, it's part of the immersion for me. I will however skip when asked nicely to accommodate the rest of the group.

BJ

The DEFAULT is the crowd that got the most votes from the "Speed run?" question.. or "Spacebar?". Just pointing it out.

[EDIT] 2 players that paid 15 bucks : one wants to watch the cutscenes.. the other doesn`t. They are BOTH RIGHT. So, how do we decide? Well... we vote between the 4 players that make the FP, since the MAJORITY should decide anyway. If it`s split.. apply common sense, or /roll if you can`t live with it.

But if you decide to piss against the wind.. well... you might get your pants wet.

OTOH, this seems to be an issue that is important to a lot of people. Consequently Bioware should add

• skip cut scenes
• don't care
• watch cut scenes

to the LFG preference. Sure, the folks who do not select don't care may have a longer queue time but this is preferable to getting into a group then quitting part way through.