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Pro-skippers, politeness will get you further

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Ratajack
07.25.2012 , 04:18 PM | #161
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
I'm quite social and an officer in my guild, thank you.

Watching the same story over and over again is NOT being social. If you think it is, maybe you need to rethink things.

Further, if in a group of four only one player wants to watch the stories, then that player is in the vast minority and should, being a fine, upstanding, social person, comply with the desires of the rest of the group. As it is, said player can hold the group hostage by refusing to comply... or I suppose he could be vote-kicked.

You suggest skippers manually form groups. People who want to watch the cutscenes in hardmodes are clearly in the minority. Perhaps THEY should manually form groups.
You cannot prove which side is in the minority, so that argument is invalid. If you find yourself in a group in which a player or two wants to watch the cutscenes, you have the option to drop group and re-queue and maybe get a group more to your liking, or you may even find yourself the one who is vote-kicked.

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TheBBP
07.25.2012 , 04:35 PM | #162
Quote: Originally Posted by grezgorz View Post
If that's the case, I'm saying politeness dictates you asking others if they mind watching the cut-scenes at the beginning. What you describe is responding to rude comments with escalated rudeness. Not a good way to get along with people IMO.
It is being rude to advise you not to assume anything about the flashpoint habits of other players?

A player should ask if it is OK to watch the game's cutscenes?

That is absurd.

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Ratajack
07.25.2012 , 04:37 PM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by Leovinus View Post
Except there's nothing at all stopping you from creating a group of likeminded people from your own guild or friends list and then queueing up as a group through the group finder. It still gets you the BH comms and you can control who's in the group.

Trust me, I do this with my own fairly static group on a nearly daily basis. If we get randomed into BT, we skip most of the cutscenes, except the cool parts where someone dies or there's an amusing line. If we get anything else, we just watch them while we BS in voice.
QFT

But I think you miss the common denominator in all the refusals of those wishing speed runs to form their own group, or insistence on skipping cutscenes, optional bosses, trash mobs that can be skipped, etc. Despite all the arguments of having lives outside of the game, limited time or whatever other arguments are put forth, they all boil down to one thing-the "I want it now, as quickly as I can get it, and with as little effort as possible" attitude of the instant gratification crowd.

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sepulhead
07.25.2012 , 05:28 PM | #164
last week something funny hapend with groupfinder. when we were send to the fp (mandalorian raiders) the tank skiped the cinematics and agro the first group. when the cinematic ended is saw the tank and other dps die and the healer enterd the fp soon after

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Cupelixx
07.25.2012 , 06:15 PM | #165
Quote: Originally Posted by -conman- View Post
If you want to see the story then go do "STORY" mode. 99% of people that do hardmodes are doing it for gear/comms. Save everybody time and spacebar. And what is with people getting a Revan ***** at the end of Malestrom Prison? People will spacebar through the whole FP then the last cut scenes comes and somebody ALWAYS has to watch it. "OMG its Revan!" *** *** ***
People shouldn't be allowed to experience the story because it's on hard mode and the only reason to go is gear/comms. Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
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Styxx
07.25.2012 , 06:46 PM | #166
Quote: Originally Posted by Cupelixx View Post
People shouldn't be allowed to experience the story because it's on hard mode and the only reason to go is gear/comms. Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
How many times do you need to watch something before it gets old?

To me, that number is ONE.

That is the precise number at which something loses it`s novelty. And, after running each and every FP before lvl 50 even, allow me to not give a crap about their story anymore.

Also, allow me to call BS on everyone that claims that a second run is still new and exciting. So, ya.... past the first run, which in some cases happens at lvl 10 and 33 and 37... it`s just the fastest possible grind / run for gear / comms, where 9 out of 10 players would answer instantly YES, to the "Fast run?" question.

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Cupelixx
07.25.2012 , 07:59 PM | #167
Quote: Originally Posted by Styxx View Post
How many times do you need to watch something before it gets old?

To me, that number is ONE.

That is the precise number at which something loses it`s novelty. And, after running each and every FP before lvl 50 even, allow me to not give a crap about their story anymore.

Also, allow me to call BS on everyone that claims that a second run is still new and exciting. So, ya.... past the first run, which in some cases happens at lvl 10 and 33 and 37... it`s just the fastest possible grind / run for gear / comms, where 9 out of 10 players would answer instantly YES, to the "Fast run?" question.
How terrible for you that the number of times you watch something before it stops being fun is greater than 1 for a good many people. You have no right to dictate what is fun to people, and I'll go ahead and say that arguing otherwise makes you selfish. If all you can do is try and deny others the game experience they are paying for, maybe you shouldn't run flashpoints with randoms. Chances are, someone is going to want to watch the cutscene. So as my inquisitor is fond of saying: "You just need to learn to deal".
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07.25.2012 , 09:50 PM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by Cupelixx View Post
How terrible for you that the number of times you watch something before it stops being fun is greater than 1 for a good many people. You have no right to dictate what is fun to people, and I'll go ahead and say that arguing otherwise makes you selfish. If all you can do is try and deny others the game experience they are paying for, maybe you shouldn't run flashpoints with randoms. Chances are, someone is going to want to watch the cutscene. So as my inquisitor is fond of saying: "You just need to learn to deal".
I Second that

In all honesty letting people watch the cut scenes is really not a big deal. I don't understand why people are getting all bent out of shape about it. It adds an extra 5 mins maybe to the HM FP.If you are so strapped for time that you can't spare an extra 5 mins, how in the star wars universe did you find the time to play in the first place lol. I actually like it when people don't spacebar, gives me a chance to pour another beer

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Arkerus
07.25.2012 , 09:56 PM | #169
Quote: Originally Posted by TheBetty View Post
I Second that

In all honesty letting people watch the cut scenes is really not a big deal. I don't understand why people are getting all bent out of shape about it. It adds an extra 5 mins maybe to the HM FP.If you are so strapped for time that you can't spare an extra 5 mins, how in the star wars universe did you find the time to play in the first place lol. I actually like it when people don't spacebar, gives me a chance to pour another beer

Drunk Healing is always fun haha
I second this. I LOVE have a chance to grab a beer. Less spacebar please.
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ChickenWangs
07.25.2012 , 10:03 PM | #170
Quote: Originally Posted by Eternalnight View Post
Kind of looks like the OP is trolling



Can't take seriously anyone who claims watching all the cutscenes takes only 3 minutes in BT.

In BT if you do things the slow way, it can easily take more than 90 minutes to complete the FP while it could be done in less than 15 minutes if you go for a fast run.
We are taking about huge amount of time wasted there.

And first of all, if you want to watch all the cutscenes in BT, you can GO SOLO THE STORYMODE, anyone level 17+ (and many people even lower than that) can just solo it, and then you can take all the time you want without bothering anyone else.

Just because you "enjoy" watching the cutscene does not give you the right to make the fp run unenjoyable for 3 other people. Stop being a selfish jerk. Why should your enjoyment take priority over the enjoyment of the 3 other people?

And do remember that this is just a game. That means some people may have real life jobs and families and so on. Making a FP run last more than an hour (not 3 minutes but an hour) longer than it would have to take, is a big deal and can cause real serious inconvenience to some people.

In most of the other flashpoints watching the cutscenes may be alright (if you aren't being a jerk about it and slowing it down just for the sake of slowing it) but if someone is not skipping in Black Talon, I would see vote to kick and ignore as perfectly good options.
What is "Story based MMO?" Oh wait Wow players hate story so they don't actually want to do it. When I start a new character I like to listen to story. 2 mins in a cut scene will not kill you.