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Leatherbeak
07.25.2012 , 01:43 PM | #131
If I find that the group I am in is not moving forward in the cut scenes, I simply type once "spacebar=friend". If the group I'm in chooses to watch the cutscenes then thats fine too. You should want to watch them at least once.
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07.25.2012 , 01:43 PM | #132
The cutscenes were cool and interesting....the first half dozen or so times. We all skip because after doing the same FP for the second or third dozen time, it gets annoying watching the same scene over and over (sometimes GF likes to make you do the same one for a few days no less).

I'm fine when people who haven't seen the cut scene care to watch it, but it's annoying when people insist on watching the SAME cut scenes dozens of times over just because. I'd much rather play the game then rewatch cut scenes dozens of times.

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07.25.2012 , 01:45 PM | #133
I went into Black Talon with my new agent a couple days ago, and group up with another player. I told her it was my first time through the flashpoint, and I wasn't going to spacebar, and asked if she had a problem with that. She didn't have a problem with it, and we had a good time.

When I take my Trooper through Taral V HM, we always skip everything (who doesn't?), but if a player says it's their first time, I won't even ask them to spacebar. I sometimes feel pressured into spacebaring myself, so I don't really get into the story of the later flashpoints. It's a shame really, because I love the story in the game. If a party member was being rude, and demanding I go faster, I would slow down and watch everything. If they aren't rude though, I feel more pressured to not take too much time. Funny how that works.
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07.25.2012 , 01:49 PM | #134
I don't so much get cut-scene skippers, but it seems like every group I'm in has that Assassin tank that insists on Stealthing past everything and then getting pissy when the Sorc healer can't do that. And every one of them has a little jumping trick to get over terrain so I can spend 30 seconds skipping a pack that would have taken 15 to just kill, as if I play this for the platforming.
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07.25.2012 , 01:53 PM | #135
Quote: Originally Posted by Giondi View Post
I don't so much get cut-scene skippers, but it seems like every group I'm in has that Assassin tank that insists on Stealthing past everything and then getting pissy when the Sorc healer can't do that. And every one of them has a little jumping trick to get over terrain so I can spend 30 seconds skipping a pack that would have taken 15 to just kill, as if I play this for the platforming.
Agree - some of the skips are more trouble and risk than they're worth. But some dramatically cut down the time in a flashpoint and if all you're looking for is the BH Comms, that's a beautiful thing.

Oh, and obviously those Assassins are... intellectually challenged.

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Saurakk
07.25.2012 , 01:54 PM | #136
Quote: Originally Posted by Kaonis View Post
I'm fine when people who haven't seen the cut scene care to watch it, but it's annoying when people insist on watching the SAME cut scenes dozens of times over just because. I'd much rather play the game then rewatch cut scenes dozens of times.
Not picking on you but quoting this statement because so many have made it..How do you know if this is only the first or second time they are doing the FP? Do you ask how many times they have watch the scenes before?

When do you figure out the person has seen it "dozens of times"?

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MillionsKNives
07.25.2012 , 01:55 PM | #137
Quote: Originally Posted by Giondi View Post
I don't so much get cut-scene skippers, but it seems like every group I'm in has that Assassin tank that insists on Stealthing past everything and then getting pissy when the Sorc healer can't do that. And every one of them has a little jumping trick to get over terrain so I can spend 30 seconds skipping a pack that would have taken 15 to just kill, as if I play this for the platforming.
At the same time it's annoying when I stealth to go and sleep the one enemy so that we can pass the group, and the dps goes and attacks it, spawning in 3 or 4 other guys, when we could have just skipped past the whole thing.

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iamthehoyden
07.25.2012 , 02:02 PM | #138
Be polite. If you really want to either watch the cutscenes or skip the cutscenes, you're making a request of the rest of the group. Be polite about it. Tantrums are not effective means of communiction among people old enough to play this game.

If you're rigid in your stance to either watch or skip cutscenes be prepared to either leave or be kicked and possibly ignored (especially if you're rude about it). Not adapting to what the group as a whole would like to do verges on childish. If you can't play nice with others, go play by yourself.

Basically, learn some damn social skills people.
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mavsynchroid
07.25.2012 , 02:06 PM | #139
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I had a PUG run today in Black Talon with a couple of what I'll describe as immature impatient obnoxious kids, screaming in chat for me (and the fourth guy) to skip the cutscenes. Even after a few seconds of video, we were generously showered with "skip, SKIP FFS" and "SPACE you *******", which always gives other people a nice fuzzy feeling inside.
Now, instead of perhaps trying with "Please, can we skip the cutscenes?", which I would have agreed to, the comments instead convinced me to make it a point to watch every single second of dialogue in the flashpoint, just to annoy those kids. And boy did it ever.

Sadly I've seen this impatient and obnoxious attitude become pretty common when doing flashpoints, as if skipping is viewed as must-do and expected. A lot of people don't expect people to want to watch this stuff, even though BioWare put it there for us to watch. I for one really enjoy this dialogue and watch it when I can, and will continue to do so in flashpoints far more times than just one. These (very well done) cutscenes do represent part of the default game that everyone has paid for. Some people have actually not seen this stuff yet and should be given every chance to. "But its just Black Talon!!! Skip FFS". Doesn't matter what it is, if someone enjoys it, let them watch. You can wait 3 more minutes to finish the flashpoint.

So you guys out there in a hurry for some reason, other people are far more inclined to skip the story stuff for you if you're not being a *ick about it And for those who act like those two kids and wind up in a group with me, bring plenty of popcorn.
I agree with everything you said, except for two things.

It was just as immature of you to intentionally sit through every flashpoint just to "get them back". If you speak of maturity, you should portray it as well.

The second one is, and of course it's as long as they are polite, if the majority of the people have seen the flashpoint cutscenes tons of times and you have as well, if the three of them don't want to sit there and watch it, you should press space bar. It would be rude towards the majority of the players who have already sat through them tons of times.

I could completely understand if it was your first time watching the cutscenes, and anyone who pushed for it to be skipped while knowing it was your first time is a jerk. However, if everyone has watched it multiple times and want to skip, it's the polite thing to do.

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MasterKayote
07.25.2012 , 02:29 PM | #140
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I have yet to see anyone give a coherent reason for watching the same cut-scenes a dozen times, other than to grief others by forcing them to wait longer in flash points.
Thats been answered multiple times, it just doesnt fit with you, so you seem to be dismissing it. Not that its really any of your business, but oh well, youre welcomed to leave groups or rage kick people all you like. No one ever said generosity, tolerance, or common decency were a legal requirment, nor is it even expected half the time on the internet. Some people are even proud of being jerks to others ... unfortunately, nothing can be done but to weed them out.

As for me, I watch them now and then. Ive been seeing them since beta even and will continue to do so when I dam well please. Thats what theyre there for. Why? For any number of reasons; Different replies, havent seen a particular outcome, or maybe I just havent been there in a while. I dont play only for a gear rush, I play for entertainment, and those cutscenes, and the dialogue options are a big part of the entertainment offered by Bioware in all its games. I will be damned if im going to let someone dictate how I should play because he doesnt spend enough time with his daughter. Cutscenes are there to be watched, they are part of the main attractions that make a Bioware game ... theyre expected, if you dont have the time for it dont use it, or learn to manage and prioritize your time better with your family. Or, what ever, continue doing what youre doing, chances are youre not in my server or already on my ignore list like so many other inconsiderate players.
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