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Bioware blames fans

deanogee's Avatar

07.24.2012 , 04:36 AM | #1

A Bioware Austin employee has lashed out at fans regarding the state of the recently launched massively multiplayer online (MMO) Star Wars: The Old Republic (SWTOR) according to GamerTechTv.

SWTOR or ‘Tortanic’ is being called one of the biggest blunders of this generation as Electronic Arts (EA) has thrown away over $500 million of development and marketing funds for the project and will now have to make it free to play because of the rapidly decreasing player count.

The failure of the MMO has caused a significant drop in EA’s share price and has lead to major layoffs at Bioware Austin. The Bioware employee, who wishes to remain anonymous, has stated that fans are in part responsible for how the MMO turned out.

“EA blames us and to some extent they’re right to. But it was fan feedback from the day we opened the forums that encouraged us to design it for the fans the way it is and that included making it more like Kotor then an MMO like Wow,” he stated mentioning that gamers actually wanted SWTOR to be more like Knights of the Old Republic (KOTOR), a single player role playing game by Bioware before it was acquired by EA, rather than World of Warcraft (WoW).

Fans have called him out and claim that Bioware is just pointing fingers for their own failure as they opened the official forums on September 12, 2011 where as the game came out three months later on December 20, 2011. It is hard to believe that three months worth of fan feedback could influence the game that was in development since 2006.

This news has also confirmed what every gamer could see coming a mile away. EA is finally about to swallow the bitter pill and make Star Wars: The Old Republic completely free to play. It’s either that or let the game die and be forgotten as the user base dwindles until there is no one left.

The employee also commented on the current situation at Bioware Austin as the layoffs mean that the remaining team is short handed and is having problems coping with the major changes required to make the game free to play. There has been no official announcement regarding SWTOR going free to play from EA so far but gamers can be certain that it is coming soon.

Discuss true or not...

DarkZeron's Avatar

07.24.2012 , 04:37 AM | #2
use the search button maybe?
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TKMaster's Avatar

07.24.2012 , 04:37 AM | #3
a must be true!
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07.24.2012 , 04:39 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by deanogee View Post
Tortanic? 500 million cost? You still need to ask?

catherder's Avatar

07.24.2012 , 04:49 AM | #5
To some degree I agree with this. In Beta SWTOR was a much different game. More detailed on many levels. For example the commendations system was dramatically different. It seemed there were lots of people on the boards who just didn't get it. Most of the complaints I saw were something like "This is nothing like WOW, so I hate it." So BioEA did what comes naturally to a large corporation, they used statistics to try to make the most people happy that they could. The corporatists soon took hold of what was left of Bioware and the rest is history... The bottom line here is the game was dumbed down from Beta to what we have currently. Game developers who are making games that are worth anything today are ignoring the HERD and following their own history and paths to make better games. EVE is a good example of this trend. What BioEA forgot is this new generation probably had no experience with KOTOR but decided to change SWTOR to appease them anyway. In perfect corporatist logic they opted for the genius Lose Lose strategy - alienate your long time fans by neglecting what made Bioware great and at the same time anger the new MMO crowd with a WOW clone that isn't "exactly like WOW"... I think if BioEA had tempered their reactions to the "fans" and these forums they could have pulled this off. For example look at the mess they made of DAO and ME. The sequels to these games bear little resemblance to their originals, they are completely dumbed down, but BioEA rejects this criticism. So who cares? EA has money and power so they will just try to force feed the herd what they think it wants, but in the process they have completely ruined a once great game company. But yes the "fans" (this new herd) is partly to blame for this fiasco too.

Nigredo's Avatar

07.24.2012 , 04:50 AM | #6
Regurgitating poorly written blogs on the forums, must be a hard life for a troll…

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07.24.2012 , 04:50 AM | #7
Is that really all it takes to start a believable rumor?

I play and greatly enjoy the game. For all its flaws, it's still a wonderful experience levelling and PvP'ing in WZs. Perfect? No.

But nothing will compete with WoW for endgame grinding. They could have launched with 1.3 - and it wouldn't have made a dent in that game.

Look at ALL the other established MMOs - including AoC, Rift, LotRO, EQ2, and so on. Not a SINGLE one of them has more subscribers than SWtOR.

People stick with WoW because that's where they invested all their time - and people like to stay with their friends. It's also WAY WAY ahead in the endgame content curve.

The thing for SWtOR to do is to set itself apart from WoW in the endgame segment, and that's accomplished by being smart and unique. Implement a freeform space segment with trading/piracy/PvP and fix up Ilum to make it a perpetually interesting PvP zone. Then you have an endgame that WoW can't compete with.

catherder's Avatar

07.24.2012 , 04:58 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Nigredo View Post
Regurgitating poorly written blogs on the forums, must be a hard life for a troll…
Thanks for this post. There are perhaps 1000's of these type of posts that get rolled up into the corporatists statistics. Margin of error used improperly = SWTOR - the latest dumbed down, herd appeasement, game from BioEA...

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07.24.2012 , 05:03 AM | #9
When are you guys gonna stop sabotaging this game? There are so many exagerations and lies written. The general forum needs shutting down, if your playing the game why would you highlight this rubbish blog? And if you dont like the game why would you be posting on here or even care?

I love this game. But I hate the general forum its full of rubbish posts.
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07.24.2012 , 05:03 AM | #10
Already the Free to Play horde is making the starter world chats unbearable. If EA goes that way then there will soon be nothing left of this game... The ingame experience will then soon bear a remarkable similarity to these forums.... which I very seldomly dip into now... I used to read the old Bioware forums very often... now? Not so much... Buh Bye.