To the Anonymous Insider

No, they don't have to divulge the number at all, regardless the number of subs. Hopefully a shareholder will ask the question if the information isn't volunteered.

More that threads that would have been closed within 15 mins to a couple of hours last thursday having been left open for days.

Of course it could well be a new moderation regiem, that is quite possible.

Just seems coincidental if its is right before an investors call (as EA accountants and management would likely have the counts in front of them right around about then).

Do you not see the dev tracker or see the interviews, tweets done and shows they attend to speak to the community. Even wow doesnt talk to is peeps and they blank point do not talk to the eu forums.

And yes there are people that do that, they get a new game to get over a content draught which wow most defo has had since november last year and even if they are enjoying the game will post negativly on the forums simply for the reaction.

Why on earth did they admit to a 400,000 drop in 3 months then? Rather than just silence and maybe "our SWTOR subs are very high and holding up well".

That's a barmy admission to make unless you have to.

Or it could be they are on vacation. And enjoying the millions they made from this game. lol!

Go read the investors call and you will see why, it was the 1st investors call when actual subscribers were not filled with suppossed numbers set by 1st month 30 free day access. it is when subscription count was accurate and it was an actual increase not a lose of active running subscribers.

Everyone has there opinions of course but it really comes down to how people say things as to if your stating it or making assumptions about what everyone else, or a huge number of people, believe.

Ive played a large number of MMO's for years now, including the god-king WoW, and although the choice was there to perhaps move to a different local to quest in reality if you just followed along from one quest hub to the next you pretty much followed a linear route. Town 1-do quests-1 leads to the next area-move on. I do agree the option to move on was nice, but I don't see that as some make-or-break option.

Playing ToR at no point have i ever felt the need to go to a different quest hub just so i could quest there as opposed to where i was. The fact that i did get to choose my responses, even though most really meant nothing to actual outcomes of quests or stories, it made me feel much more ingrained in the story over WoW where i always found myself just clicking the accept button then running off to the map location and back without any concept of what i was doing except grinding XP as fast as possible.

Well again i disagree. I can read, and like to, and i can see... and like to i guess. So overall when the choice to click the button and race off to get xp is faster, i enjoy watching the scenes, answering in whatever way i see my character doing so, not as a RP'er, but just because i feel its more engaging and draws me more into the story and why I'm doing what I'm doing. As far as making them into your own character, your still doing that, just because you would choose a voice in your head that might not be the one they chose for your character is again not make or break for me.

OK agreed it took development time away from quests for everyone, but i think and have read a good deal of posts saying the class quests were peoples favorite quests, so it seems that perhaps it was a good choice for them to use that time that way. Personally again, i never felt the desire to drop a story quest to move on, where as i would occasionally like to be done with some other quests to move on and continue my class quest.

I leveled 5 characters to 50 so far, my first one i skipped 2 entire planets and did no bonus series because i intentionally chose to leave them for my next character, and i was never more than 1 level lower that the planet or quests i was on. All i did feel is that when i was a little bit short of xp to level or something, grinding mobs was not as productive as some games.

Well when i hit max level on WoW my "story' pretty much ended, sure there were lots of raids and dungeons, daily and weekly quests but (while not as many yet) I've been doing the same things in ToR. From your other points though you seem to think story is less important than other content? so why would you want more story at max level over FPs and Ops and such. I very much liked the story-lines for my characters but unlike WoW where i got my main to max and never wanted to ever even consider leveling another character, i finished my first in ToR and immediately made another, then a third fourth and fifth, and i have others already made and waiting to go.

Only now am i starting to actually build my main in ToR and have begun doing the Ops and FPs and i am continuing now to see my characters story progress as he fights the bad guys out there for a variety of reasons. These things are pretty much open story for everyone instead of class only.

Agreed for those who want 1 main and don't want to level more characters you do miss a lot of content in the game do to development time being spread around, so that point i understand.

As it happens my BH (now 50, my third character) leveled the entire planet of Taris in a group, and a random group at that. I was looking to do the group quests for the set of mod-able armor that comes from the rewards. I agree that class quests are sometimes a pain in groups since you either cant help on some part and others you need to do them more than once, but overall i found it much more fun than other planets i did more by myself.

So i see your point here and agree that part of class stories could use some help, grouping to help with them can be a little bit of a PITA.

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And them my wrap-up. While i can see your points from your point of view, sadly that's all it is. Some, even many, may agree with yours, but i do not, and hopefully many others don't as well. Everyone has there opinions and can freely state them.

Mine is that i very much enjoy the game, and i see that it has a lot of good parts to it and a huge amount of enjoyment for me. I believe if the game manages to continue it has the chance to grow and become even better.

I really wish those people who are enjoying the game would post more often, all anyone sees when they read these forums are those people who have issues with the game. While they can certainly speak out on those issues, overall it gives a game a bad appearance for new people thinking of joining.

Or they have moved onto GW2 beta.

No you're wrong, SWG was a sandbox AT LAUNCH. Maybe NGE turned it into a themepark, but it wasn't at launch. You're right though in that housing doesn't matter in what's a sandbox or what isn't. Themepark = directed and quest driven.

How many MMOs does EA oversee? Do any of them report sub numbers? Blizzard does it because they're top dog. EVE use to, but I haven't seen them announce since before Monaclegate.

They are only required to report raw financial numbers...they don't have to break it down by title.

Huh? But why admit that subs had dropped from 1.7 m to 1.3m at all if they didn't have to say anything?