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Soluss
07.21.2012 , 07:41 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Wraiven View Post
You act like you know. Sources please.
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PvP server rulesets
Player vs. Player (PvP) - On a Player vs. Player server, players from the opposing faction can attack you at almost any time. Of course this means that you can also attack them at almost any time. This provides you with a more challenging experience since you are under the near-constant threat of attack, both from NPCs and from players aligned with the enemy faction.

We also wanted to expand on what the PvP server ruleset means in The Old Republic. The obvious overarching rule is that in general, if you see a player of the opposite faction, you may immediately engage them in combat.

The exception to this rule is sanctuaries, which are large areas where PvP may not take place, regardless of whether you are flagged or unflagged for PvP. Examples of this are the Origin Worlds (Tython, Ord Mantell, Hutta, and Korriban), the Capital Worlds for both sides (Dromund Kaas and Coruscant), and the Republic/Imperial Fleets.
IOW its open world PVP full time. You can sit there and camp your enemy as long as you want to. Dragging NPCs into the equasion is not griefing by any means. Have you ever played on PVP server before?

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Wraiven
07.21.2012 , 07:43 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by boxfetish View Post
Nuff said. Your reponses to the contrary not withstandling. Lots of people claim to like or want things that they really don't, some may not even realize it. This entire thread and it's title tell us your true nature. The first stage is acceptance.
Get a life, man. You're attempt to insult me was...futile. You can't even spell...more less put somebody down.
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StaticJoe
07.21.2012 , 07:44 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by boxfetish View Post
Nuff said. Your reponses to the contrary not withstandling. Lots of people claim to like or want things that they really don't, some may not even realize it. This entire thread and it's title tell us your true nature. The first stage is acceptance.

I did my first WZ last night...the only thing I know about PVP is I know nothing about PVP plus my Sorc isn't geared for PVP...and I had one helluva good time. If it was red I blasted it--did I die? Absolutely. Did I kill a few people? Yes I did. Did I know what I was doing? Not a snowball's chance in hell but I have to say I did enjoy it--dunno if I would want to do it on a regular basis but once in a while most definitely
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Wraiven
07.21.2012 , 07:46 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
IOW its open world PVP full time. You can sit there and camp your enemy as long as you want to. Dragging NPCs into the equasion is not griefing by any means. Have you ever played on PVP server before?
I appreciate the decent response with the proper info. You sir have given the best and only response worth looking at in this thread.

So pretty much, pulling mobs in to other players on a PvP server will not get you banned like it would on a PvE server. If I decide to return the favor, it is completely legal and I do not have to worry about being banned for this?

If it is fair play, then so be it. Game on.
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Soluss
07.21.2012 , 07:59 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Wraiven View Post
I appreciate the decent response with the proper info. You sir have given the best and only response worth looking at in this thread.

So pretty much, pulling mobs in to other players on a PvP server will not get you banned like it would on a PvE server. If I decide to return the favor, it is completely legal and I do not have to worry about being banned for this?

If it is fair play, then so be it. Game on.
No, I dont think you would get banned for it.

Thats the spirit!

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Thundergulch
07.21.2012 , 08:01 PM | #56
I'd hate to see how the OP would react if he played EVE Online .

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Sorrin
07.21.2012 , 08:12 PM | #57
I think camping would be more fair on an actual sandbox MMO. In SWTOR you pretty much have places that no matter what you have to go through. You want to get from one city to another that you haven't discovered yet? You run along the path, no other paths available.

People are saying to transfer to another server because he must not like PvP.
Well... we can't transfer xD

We're stuck in these servers and from the sound of it, the server he was on before didn't do that and the one he was moved to does. That's my assumption. I bet if he could choose to transfer to another PvP server he'd be happier, where there are others who are more like minded to him. But we don't have that luxary.

If you have a life, you don't want to restart your legacy, your creds, your characters, your affection, or anything back to lvl 1 on a new server leaving everything behind.
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Blackardin
07.21.2012 , 08:56 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Wraiven View Post
After sifting through 6 pages of BS from people without a clue, somebody finally posted a proper response to the topic. Nothing more to see here, thank you.
I'm surprised it only took six pages. ;p

Contrary to what is being stated here, PvP or non-PvP has nothing to do with the issue being justified or not. PvP servers do not provide for the right to exploit or harass.

Bottom line here is that it is interpretive based on motive. According to the rules of conduct they are exploiting a game mechanic in order to disrupt your gameplay, which can be considered harassment. It also speaks of "incessant behavior", which this can also be considered.

Not my call, theirs, but this is what the, Rules of conduct state.

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Harassment consists of misuse and/or abuse of game mechanics and verbal harassment with the intention of distressing and offending other players. Game mechanics allow players to interact with the world and each other. For example, the ability to block a doorway is a game mechanic. Use of game mechanics like these is by no means considered harassment in and of itself. The key to determining whether the mechanic is being misused or abused is to determine "intent." Reported incidents are not considered harassment until it is determined by the SWTOR CS that it was done to intentionally to cause distress or to offend other players.

Harassment is also any behavior that is incessant, inescapable, derogatory and directed specifically at you or your group. Before reporting, a genuine attempt to alleviate the situation should be made by leaving the area or the offending player, or asking them politely to stop. If a sincere attempt has been made to solve the problem and the offending player persists in the behavior, it should be reported.
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Sarfux
07.21.2012 , 09:17 PM | #59
If they do not stop, you know what you do? Create a circle around them and don't let them out. Wait them out. Kill them. Make them suffer then. Isn't that your job as an Imperial anyway? Darn..I mean go back to fleet, get some guys, go to planet get some guys and get it done YOURSELF! Stop crying and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!

Don't be one of the people expecting a trophy for complaining. Make yourself a trophy winner by cleaning up the pigs that are doing it and showing no mercy. THATS how you deal with people like that.
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Ansalem
07.21.2012 , 09:19 PM | #60
Yeah the OP either needs to get a group of players together to kill the 'griefers' or he needs to play on a pve server because honestly welcome to pvp. People will use any advantage they can to win a fight so are you really surprised by this? Either kill the person or move.
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