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Topherend
08.11.2012 , 04:37 PM | #91
1. How do you think your Vanguard spec is perceived by other classes?
Pure Assult Specialist Spec, Great burst, Good sustained dmg , typically brought and wanted for the burst/sustained dmg we bring to the table in pvp

2. How do you perceive your own spec?
Great burst and sustained dmg. Good mobilty. Not much survivabilty, decent utility. Basically I m glass cannon wearing heavy armor that has mobility.
Topherend-50 Vanguard-ETSU (Current Main)
Topherwonwindu -50 Sentinel- Canderous Ordo- ETSU
Topherphett- 50 Powertech- Prophecy of the Five- The Death Dealers
3 other 50s(GS, Mara, Sniper)

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flyersfan
08.25.2012 , 12:54 AM | #92
I play a Tactician and a Shield Specialist, so I will answer for both.

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1. How do you think your Vanguard spec is perceived by other classes?


Tactics:

I feel like my Tactician is a bit underrated by some of the community that has really jumped on the Assault Specialist bandwagon. There are some that have suggested that I just make the switch, but I respectfully refuse. Many seem to think that the Assault Specialist's burns are much better than anything I can pull off.

Shield Specialist:

Most people find me superior as a Shield Specialist to the Kinetic Combatant or the Defense Guardian. I've got a ton of tools and moves that some other classes don't really have or are a bit "inferior" to my own abilities. Some examples are my Harpoon ability, which Guardians do not have, and my Storm ability, which Shadows do not have (Force Speed is similar, but it doesn't ignore elevation like Storm/Force Leap).

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2. How do you perceive your own spec?


Tactics:

Love it. Gut is great for boosting damage numbers and Pulse Generator makes my Pulse Cannon a real heavy hitter with the newly fixed slow side effect at 5 stacks. I do great damage while having great survivability (I tank Hard Mode Flashpoints regularly with absolutely no problems). Granted, I regularly use Ion Cell rather than the typical Tactics Cell, but it improves my survivability while allowing me to Guard healers more effectively.

Shield Specialist:

Love it as well. I can provide awesome protection while doing enough damage to chip in for the team. Abilities like Smoke Grenade and Explosive Surge with Static Field also are very helpful to reduce the enemies' damage output. In PvE, all the AoE abilities of the Trooper in addition to Explosive Surge makes keeping aggro a breeze. I definitely feel superior to any Guardian tank based on pure class mechanics.
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Black-Cell
08.25.2012 , 05:21 PM | #93
I've played all 3 so I'll answer for all.

Assault Spec (my current spec):
1) People didn't think I was that OP until recently. I'm not in high-demand unless I'm at least half war-hero.
2) I LOVE playing Assault vanguard. I'm FINALLY full war-hero (eliminator gear) with 1/2 with Aim augments, and the other 1/2 Power. I wouldn't say I'm OP since I'm full War Hero with everything augmented. I think everything is what it should be, I mean whats the point of not being a huge threat when you achieve full war hero?
1 Comment: I really wishhhhhhhhhhhhh we had a knock-back like the commando's and a few other classes. I realize we're potential tanks, but I think that would help out vanguards tremendously.

Tactics:
1) As others have stated, this is under-rated. I know few vanguards that 1) Use this, and 2) Know how the mechanics work. It's one of the specs that's rarely used, and most ppl ask me if I use this tree for Rated Warzones because if I do, they do not want me
2) Admittedly, I have minimal experience with it. I could not get the mechanics down, and it was too "Melee" for my taste. I thought FirePulse was 30x weaker than the plastique. I know a player that uses this that can get close to 400k in damage with almost full war hero, so I know it can be great but I could not get the mechanics down.

Shield Spec:
1) This seems to be in low-demand on my server. Ppl think vanguard tanks aren't that great compared to other classes, especially after the nerf.
2) Admittedly, it's been a long time since I've used this spec (pre 1.3!). I loved this tank especially because of the Aoe taunt. I wasn't too impressed by the smoke grenade, I was never really sure if I had to stay in that spot to use it (I know it sounds stupid, but I'm still not sure!). I also hear this got nerfed after 1.3 so I can't speak about this too much more.

Hope this helps!

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DenitharPurloin
08.27.2012 , 12:03 AM | #94
I am a Shield Specialist PvE tank on my Vanguard, 31/10/0 in the trees.

1- Those that understand Vanguards perceive me as i do, those that do not get confused by my tactics sometimes because they do not conform to Guardian tactics.

2- In FPs I perceive myself as a very adequate tank, especially by those who understand how to play with me. Mark your CCs first and I can group a ton of trash together to AoE and still survive the fight as long as healers understand my build. I mitigate a LOT and avoid a LITTLE, DoTs ruin me. I hold aggro very well. In end-game Operations (EC) I also perform well, but the mechanics of some boss fights make me feel like they are better suited to other tank types sometimes. I still get the job done, but feel my healers are sometimes overworked.

MY BEEFS -

1- Why start different tanks out with different "default" defense ratings?
2- My defensive cooldowns are "default" trooper abilities (reactive shield/adrenaline rush) without any improvements over any other trooper. With the exception of the -20% accuracy grenade whose mechanics are questionable at best
3- Until I equipped Black Hole Modifications, I was DEFINITELY THE WORST TANK. That is because the modification ratios for EVERY TROOPER Mod are set at an "A" ratio regardless of what type they read as, and it was a nightmare stacking Shield Rating or Defense up to the Rakata grade. FIX THE DARN MOD-MODIFICATION TABLES FOR TROOPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


Otherwise, I hold aggro well and preform decently in almost everything that is asked of me

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TrumpetNut
09.04.2012 , 10:32 AM | #95
As of dps vanguard needs ALOT of improving. (for both dps specs)