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07.16.2012 , 10:39 AM | #1
Hi everyone,

We’re looking for some specific feedback about each Advanced Class and spec. Your feedback here, along with other feedback we’ve been gathering and our internal metrics, may guide future class balance changes. Similar threads will be found in every Advanced Class forum.

Here are the two questions that we’d like to ask (please only post about specific specs that you actively play, and don’t forget to tell us which one you’re talking about!):

1. How do you think your Vanguard spec is perceived by other classes?
2. How do you perceive your own spec?

Please answer the post using the same format and in no more than 2-3 sentences per question.

This is not a discussion thread, so please do not debate others’ feedback – everyone gets to share what they think. Any off-topic or unconstructive posts (or any that do not follow the above guidelines) will be removed without warning.

Remember, this isn’t the only thread we’re looking at for feedback – if you have more feedback than fits the above guidelines, please feel free to post a discussion thread. We’re looking to get some specific insights here, but we are always reading the forums to gather feedback and player concerns.

Thank you!

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07.16.2012 , 10:52 AM | #2
I think people percieve my spec as assault vanguard to be a little OP. I think the class play fine as I can do alot of burst damage but i am also pretty squishy too. I like being able to tank but then switch to dps and i am not tanky anymore.

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07.16.2012 , 11:15 AM | #3
Play as a tanking vanguard.

1. How do you think your Vanguard spec is perceived by other classes?
In our guild vanguard tanks are considered the "best" of the 3 tanking classes due to their ability to charge, pull mobs, and having some ranged abilities giving them the ability to "range tank" if needed.

2. How do you perceive your own spec?
My favorite tank class in the game, my only complaint is that my interrupt ability is limited to 4m and would like a longer range, ideally 10-15m.

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07.16.2012 , 11:18 AM | #4

1. Below average tank. DPS to low.

2. Great tank. DPS to low.
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07.16.2012 , 11:25 AM | #5
1. No real idea how other people perceive the Vanguard Shield Specialist spec.

2. I find the Shield Specialist spec to be adaquate in most ways, though resource management is challenging against opponents whose attacks cannot be shielded. The current Shield Cycler talent makes energy cells commonly a feast or famine state, If I am lucky with shielding and lucky with the talent proccing, I am fine on cells, if I have bad RNG, or am facing an opponent that relies mostly on force/tech attacks, I am very quickly out of energy cells and unable to keep threat.

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07.16.2012 , 11:27 AM | #6
Vanguard Tank

1. To hard to kill, but I can't kill anything either.

2. I am asked to tank everything, with 2.4k endurance and 1.7k AIM I rarely even have to taunt things to keep agro as my damage is high enough to do it for me except on bosses.
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07.16.2012 , 11:32 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by CommunitySupport View Post
1. How do you think your Vanguard spec is perceived by other classes?
2. How do you perceive your own spec?
1. For PVE I think that others feel Shield Spec Vanguards are fine. For PVP I think people just think of us as guard and health batteries.

2. For PVE I think we do great, I have had no problems holding aggro or staying alive unless something really unfortunate happens. For PVP however, I feel really downtrodden. Tanking gear has very limited uses in PVP due to the mitigation limitations. As far as DPS goes though we can put up decent numbers on the final scoreboard, it is really from aoe damage, and our single target damage is very lackluster. Unfortunately I feel the change to Static Surge which reduced the effectiveness of stock strike, hurt Shield spec vanguards quite a bit.

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07.16.2012 , 12:21 PM | #8
Assault Spec

1. Overpowered in PVP, ok in PVE but not a top choice to bring for a DPS slot.

2. I think the damage output is fine, but the utility is low. I feel less useful than other DPS classes, since I don't have a long lasting CC, a threat reducing ability, or any useful group buff/debuffs (like a gunslinger's bubble or a sentinel's buffs).


1. People think that no one really plays tactics, which might be sorta true.

2. I think that tactics is twice as hard to play as assault, but yields a slight loss in DPS. It's more fun to play, but it's not worth it.

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07.16.2012 , 12:23 PM | #9
1. I've played burst dps spec and tank spec and I think most expect me to be bursty FOTM spec, but quite easy to kill if you focus fire.

2. I thoroughly enjoy the tanking element - more so than the burst - in PVP and PVE. I feel I make a real difference and am a leader with both.

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07.16.2012 , 12:38 PM | #10
1. How do you think your Vanguard spec is perceived by other classes?
People view assault as a somewhat overpowered burst dps spec in PvP. They also heavily overestimate how useful heavy armor is and thus think we must be a lot less squishy than them.

2. How do you perceive your own spec?
PVP: Sometimes if the stars align on crits+high impact bolt procs the burst can get pretty high. The only thing needed is to space out the combo and not lower the assault specs sustained damage.
PvE: Our sustained damage really needs an upgrade. It's just too low in PvE.