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Why do people insist on killing prices?

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Why do people insist on killing prices?

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Jakarn
07.13.2012 , 06:22 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Socialist View Post
Yes it is in this case.

You are taking the money other people worked on to get (by questing for instance). The difference of cred between the cost of production (mats, etc) and the profit is imaginary in this game. You just think you are entitled to get some money from someone else because you did it.

We could all just get money from selling stuff at cost + questing/dailying. Like I do, and I am never lacking money.


It is also cool to sell stuff cheap or just plain give them away. Makes you feel happy more people are getting otherwise expensive goodies and experiencing more the game.



But enough of my MMO-adapted Marxism.
Maybe some peope don't have the time to do the dailies as you do and they can get a little boring, what if I want to experience the legacy part of the game most of the legacy items cost about 1 mil, by doing the dailies (I only really get time to do one planet) I get about 100k, so it will take 10 days to get the I MIl that is if I don't spend money on other things.

If I sell stuff on the GTN and make a reasonable profit I can half that time and experience a part of the game I want to experience not what you dictate to me. By doing this you are putting players like myself through needless grind, something that most players hate in MMOs.

If the money is imaginery in this game as you say than let us make our imaginery cash, so it will not be a hassel to buy the items you say are making available. You are cutting down one of the avenues to make this money, some people like doing dailies others want to make money another way.

People will only pay what they can afford or what they think is right, so the price will adjust itself we don't need people to speed up that process. You arn't helping anyone, if money is so easy to get, you have your grind, let us play the market.

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Hyde_v
07.13.2012 , 06:44 PM | #62
I've been accused of undercutting when selling items. But the honest answer is that I just don't know how the Star Wars economy works.

In WoW, three hundred gold for an item is a pretty steep price. Over a thousand gold, amazingly high. Over ten thousand, ridiculous.

I once asked what a level 22 prototype medium armor piece would be worth. I was told prices ranging from 50,000 to 100.000 credits. I was blown away! That's quite a leap in the economics I'm used to.
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MarmicMocius
07.13.2012 , 06:57 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Jakarn View Post
You arn't helping anyone, if money is so easy to get, you have your grind, let us play the market.
No, he's not helping you; or rather any number of people who are trying to make money on the GTN by selling items for extremely high profit.

The fallacy in your asking to "let us play the market." is that you are implying that you're somehow being prevented from doing so, which simply is not the case. At best you're being prevented from playing the market according to the rules you dictate as opposed to the rules someone else dictates, or a free market.

The simple matter is that people can sell their merchandise at any price they want to. Normally this price will reflect a desire recover production costs, but not necessarily so. If someone is wealthy enough and has the motivation to flood the market with grossly under priced goods, there is nothing you can do about it. They have not broken any rules, stolen anything, committed any acts which are immoral, etc. This is really no different than in real life markets where wealthy parties flood a market with an abundance of money, or cheap goods. The situation will last so long as the resources of the investor persist and their desire to drive down prices exists.

You're upset because now someone else has more control over the market than you do.

Either you find a way to swing the market back in a direction that you can exert more control over, you learn to play by current rules, or you get out of the game all together.

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Socialist
07.13.2012 , 07:07 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Jakarn View Post
Maybe some peope don't have the time to do the dailies as you do and they can get a little boring, what if I want to experience the legacy part of the game most of the legacy items cost about 1 mil, by doing the dailies (I only really get time to do one planet) I get about 100k, so it will take 10 days to get the I MIl that is if I don't spend money on other things.

If I sell stuff on the GTN and make a reasonable profit I can half that time and experience a part of the game I want to experience not what you dictate to me. By doing this you are putting players like myself through needless grind, something that most players hate in MMOs.

If the money is imaginery in this game as you say than let us make our imaginery cash, so it will not be a hassel to buy the items you say are making available. You are cutting down one of the avenues to make this money, some people like doing dailies others want to make money another way.

People will only pay what they can afford or what they think is right, so the price will adjust itself we don't need people to speed up that process. You arn't helping anyone, if money is so easy to get, you have your grind, let us play the market.
I'm not forcing you to do anything.

Just trying to make you guys see that since this is a simulated economy and there is no such a thing as value on credits you can all be more altruistic.

Stop putting sky-high prices. Sell stuff at popular prices, so everyone can get the goodies.

Or just plain give them away like I do, but that is too radical.
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Styxx
07.13.2012 , 07:07 PM | #65
I sell for as high as I think I can sell. Period. I don`t care about anyone, except for my own pocket.

Want to be idealistic? Buy my stuff and resell it for 1 cr. But don`t come with this "Holier than Thou" story, when you just have been undercut after you`ve done it yourself.

And Socialist.. by all means do that. I`ll just buy you out and resell double

[EDIT]And OF COURSE I`ll go -1 or -10 or -500 or -50k or whatever I feel like in that moment, as such as my product be cheapest. Or buy all under a certain price and resell high, if I feel like it. But at that time it is no longer the seller`s problem, since it got the asked price.

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Socialist
07.13.2012 , 07:13 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Styxx View Post
I sell for as high as I think I can sell. Period. I don`t care about anyone, except for my own pocket.

Want to be idealistic? Buy my stuff and resell it for 1 cr. But don`t come with this "Holier than Thou" story, when you just have been undercut after you`ve done it yourself.

And Socialist.. by all means do that. I`ll just buy you out and resell double
Watch out, we've got a badarse here.
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Styxx
07.13.2012 , 07:14 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Socialist View Post
Watch out, we've got a badarse here.
Watch out...sell neurals for 1k a pop... I`ll buy and resell for 20k

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Socialist
07.13.2012 , 07:19 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Styxx View Post
Watch out...sell neurals for 1k a pop... I`ll buy and resell for 20k
Fortunately I don't sell in the GTN though, at least most of the stuff I sell at such low prices usually just a few messages on the fleet do the trick.


I'll be sure not to trade with some guy who is apparently overly rich and has a nickname resembling Styxx
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Styxx
07.13.2012 , 07:27 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by Socialist View Post
Fortunately I don't sell in the GTN though, at least most of the stuff I sell at such low prices usually just a few messages on the fleet do the trick.


I'll be sure not to trade with some guy who is apparently overly rich and has a nickname resembling Styxx
Me and my big mouth... I promise I`ll resell at... lower prices... on scout`s honour

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vincent-
07.13.2012 , 07:44 PM | #70
I always undercut the guy who has the lowest I mean I do pvp all day and send my companions off to collect gifts and bingo I make 200k.
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