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Katana(samurai sword) Lightsaber

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Mavryk
07.12.2012 , 01:24 AM | #11
I am a great fan of both Katana's and Lightsabres, so it looks really nice to me. However I don't see the need outside of the visual impact, it wouldn't enhance the lightsabres ability any further with a curved blade.
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EnsignSorrow
07.12.2012 , 01:46 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Invictos View Post
Lucas threw the saber staff into Phantom Menace for shock value and/or toy sales. It's been all downhill from there.
Except that fits the lore because the light does not form a new shape. The basic idea of a hilt and a solid light beam is still intact.

If anything just have a cool hilt like Count Dooku. Look it up.
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Invictos
07.12.2012 , 03:55 AM | #13
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Except that fits the lore because the light does not form a new shape. The basic idea of a hilt and a solid light beam is still intact.
The saber staff is still perhaps the most impractical weapon ever conceived. It is immersion-breaking by dint of our common-sense understanding of the human body and how it moves -- whereas the idea of a beam of light arbitrarily terminating at a fixed point to form a distinct blade-like shape is merely dubious in an abstract, physics-class kinda way. Likewise, a curved light beam would be both dubious and immersion-breaking, but it'd be just another cheesy gimmick to throw onto an already expansive pile of cheesy gimmicks.

Oh yeah, and check out that Darksaber link above. Looks like you're too late.

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Lorica
07.13.2012 , 11:39 AM | #14
If a lightsaber comes to being, I am guessing that it will resemble something like a vibroblade and the energy beam will surround the blade or some how they will be able to control the beams projection. As for giving a curve look or anything, that would just be more for style than for functionality. One thing about the lightsaber, I would expect to see more injuries because there is no mass to stop the blade and all sides cut, not just the point or the one cutting side as seen on a katana.

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jarjarloves
07.13.2012 , 12:21 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Lorica View Post
If a lightsaber comes to being, I am guess that it will resemble something like a vibroblade and the energy beam will surround the blade or some how they will be able to control the beams projection. As for giving a curve look or anything, that would just be more for style than for functionality. One thing about the lightsaber, I would expect to see more injuries because there is no mass to stop the blade and all sides cut, not just the point or the one cutting side as seen on a katana.
well yeah a lightsaber like they have in the movies is 100% impossible. It could never ever exist unless we some how discover "magic"

A plasma sword or something like a vibro blade is possible.

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TakDagon
07.13.2012 , 12:24 PM | #16
See, lightsabers are impractical in real world applications. They are also impractical in the non-Force using population of the Star Wars universe. People who don't have the ability to call on this mysterious Force thing can't use lightsabers without cutting themselves to pieces. It's a cool weapon in theory but at the same time, quit trying to apply it to the real world. It's hand-waveyness at its best.

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Invictos
07.13.2012 , 01:17 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by TakDagon View Post
See, lightsabers are impractical in real world applications. They are also impractical in the non-Force using population of the Star Wars universe. People who don't have the ability to call on this mysterious Force thing can't use lightsabers without cutting themselves to pieces. It's a cool weapon in theory but at the same time, quit trying to apply it to the real world. It's hand-waveyness at its best.
Exactly right. I still believe that the saber staff is more immersion-breaking than a regular lightsaber, because the concept of fighting with a staff weapon without ever letting it touch you* strains our common sense credulity, whereas the concept of a light beam that terminates at a fixed and arbitrary point in space is a more abstract absurdity -- but in principle, none of the above is any less preposterous than a curved lightsaber.

In any case, when you're dealing with fantasy, all of the preceding objections are subjective.

(* - Force or no Force, there are only so many ways a human body can contort. It seems to me that you'd spend as much effort and energy just getting out of your own way as you would attacking your opponent, with a saber staff. "So the good news is I parried an attack; the bad news is I cut my own legs off!")

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NorrinRaddd
07.13.2012 , 04:37 PM | #18
lol is all im gonna say

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TakDagon
07.17.2012 , 12:34 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Invictos View Post
Exactly right. I still believe that the saber staff is more immersion-breaking than a regular lightsaber, because the concept of fighting with a staff weapon without ever letting it touch you* strains our common sense credulity, whereas the concept of a light beam that terminates at a fixed and arbitrary point in space is a more abstract absurdity -- but in principle, none of the above is any less preposterous than a curved lightsaber.

In any case, when you're dealing with fantasy, all of the preceding objections are subjective.

(* - Force or no Force, there are only so many ways a human body can contort. It seems to me that you'd spend as much effort and energy just getting out of your own way as you would attacking your opponent, with a saber staff. "So the good news is I parried an attack; the bad news is I cut my own legs off!")
While yes, it does limit the potential range of the weapon, it is fully possible to fight with a staff in the real world without beating yourself to death with it, even if you are restricted to holding it within a foot to either side of center. Therefore, it should be possible to fight with a saber staff without lopping body parts off. Especially with the predescribed access to such a power as 'The Force' to assist you and augment abilities. Besides, if you listen any time someone describes a saber staff in canon, the general reaction is that it's by far the most retarded weapon a Jedi could carry. For example, in the book Darth Plageuis, Palpatine and Damask have a conversation regarding Maul's use of a saber staff, where Damask states that anyone using that weapon must be out of their mind (or something similar). When Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan see Maul's saberstaff, they both look confused. I attribute this to the fact that they are shocked that anyone would even attempt that weapon.

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Rayla_Felana
07.17.2012 , 01:40 PM | #20
There would be no reason to have one, the point of the Katana is to have a cutting/slicing weapon, to adapt to certain armors and to be of ease of use, no such difficulties would affect the lightsaber, as it already does it's own job.

Also, I think there have been far too many variations as it stands, it is already overkill that we have so many, as 'cool' as it may be, I imagine the gimmick would get old rather quickly and their existence would then only serve to annoy the lore buffs.