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monkgryphon
07.09.2012 , 10:53 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Bethmora View Post
It just shows how many children are playing this game. After 5 minutes id think an adult would have enough but it just shows the maturity on the server. just make a new chat tab, i have a guild chat tab and just turn it on that and i dont have to see the kids on general chat.
Don't be naive. It's not just children.

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Spectus
07.09.2012 , 11:55 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by AllisonBerryman View Post
Sorry to hear that you're having a negative experience with General Chat. It seems you're already familiar with the ignore list, which is good, but (as others have mentioned) you can also leave General Chat altogether if the messages are too frequent and are disrupting your play. If you aren't in a guild, I'd strongly recommend checking a few out to find a good fit - you may find that a good guild chat with others who share similar tastes would suit you best! Remember that you can change your chat settings at any time, so if it's ever too overwhelming, you might want to leave and come back later. Also - remember that you can report players who are being abusive, offensive, or who are harassing others in chat. Now that the Group Finder is available, General Chat shouldn't be necessary to form a group (though it can still be helpful).
^^^ This, quoted for emphasis.

The vulgar tendencies of MMO general chat channels is one of the main driving reasons Saints of the Old Republic was formed in the first place. If I didn't have the haven of our Guild Chat channels, I think I too would go mad.
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Spectus
07.10.2012 , 12:01 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Kourage View Post
Wrong. Chat is not spam. If I post a 7 line recruitment every 15 seconds, I'd call that spam. People having conversations is not spam. Use another chat channel if you can't handle it.
Depends on how frequent and/or intrusive or inane the comments are. What the OP is talking about -- movie-parody titles posted in such rapid succession that they overwhelm the chat box -- would probably strike me as spam. And yes, there are "griefer" gamers who thrive on getting on people's nerves by doing stuff like this, all the while protesting their (supposed) innocence. Fortunately, this game's moderators know VERY well who they are.

I'd say the rule of thumb for defining suggestive material applies to spam: we may not be able to define it in advance, but we know it when we see it. Spammers need to consider themselves warned.

After all, if people want to have a conversation, they can take it to tells, or group up, or form a raid group, or even create their own custom chat channel complete with password protection. There is NO need to make a nuisance of oneself.
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Hizoka
07.10.2012 , 12:54 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by AllisonBerryman View Post
Sorry to hear that you're having a negative experience with General Chat. It seems you're already familiar with the ignore list, which is good, but (as others have mentioned) you can also leave General Chat altogether if the messages are too frequent and are disrupting your play. If you aren't in a guild, I'd strongly recommend checking a few out to find a good fit - you may find that a good guild chat with others who share similar tastes would suit you best! Remember that you can change your chat settings at any time, so if it's ever too overwhelming, you might want to leave and come back later. Also - remember that you can report players who are being abusive, offensive, or who are harassing others in chat. Now that the Group Finder is available, General Chat shouldn't be necessary to form a group (though it can still be helpful).
you are missing the point i think. Mature people shouldn't have to ignore and leave a chat because a handful of "little kids" spam the hell out of the chat. It is in your TOS that spaming and making gameplay unpleasent for others is against the rules and subject to action.


Why is it that we have to leave the chat instead of you actually punishing the offenders. I know you guys run a business but you will drive away more peopel then you keep by rewarding people for breaking the rules and doing what they are told to do. This reward for transfering server was a bad idea, instead you should of just said you had until the end of the month to freely move your characters or they will be deleted. By constantly giving people a new gift for doing what they are supposed to do and NEVER punishing them for breaking the rules you get this kinda trsh in the game.


15 years ago MMOs were games for gamers, not its seems like the "gamer" market is ignored and the little kids keep me occupied for 5 minutes then give me something for being here 5 minutes is the market.

PvP is a 100% joke because its gear based not skill based, you constantly nerf due to PvP QQ and in the process of ruining the PvE game, and now you allow mindless immaturity to run rampant in the genreal chats, and all you do is tell people to leave the chat instead of smacking the rule breaker on the *** and putting them in time out. You will gain more respect from your community by upholding the rules you have listed in teh TOS then by telling the people who follow the rules just to ignore the ones who don't.

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Hizoka
07.10.2012 , 01:02 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Kourage View Post
Wrong. Chat is not spam. If I post a 7 line recruitment every 15 seconds, I'd call that spam. People having conversations is not spam. Use another chat channel if you can't handle it.
saying Harry JAWA and the lightsaber of fire every 3.5 seconds for 2 and a half hours is spam and they should be banned for it.


If you allow an immature child to get away with simple garbage like that they will get more and more bold. I realize that concept is something far forgotten by most people today. If you stop the incorrect action when it starts it won't grow. Because parents of today do not understand that its why so many kids grow up to be pieces of trash.

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Shaabyy
07.10.2012 , 08:22 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Hizoka View Post
you are missing the point i think. Mature people shouldn't have to ignore and leave a chat because a handful of "little kids" spam the hell out of the chat. It is in your TOS that spaming and making gameplay unpleasent for others is against the rules and subject to action.


Why is it that we have to leave the chat instead of you actually punishing the offenders. I know you guys run a business but you will drive away more peopel then you keep by rewarding people for breaking the rules and doing what they are told to do. This reward for transfering server was a bad idea, instead you should of just said you had until the end of the month to freely move your characters or they will be deleted. By constantly giving people a new gift for doing what they are supposed to do and NEVER punishing them for breaking the rules you get this kinda trsh in the game.


15 years ago MMOs were games for gamers, not its seems like the "gamer" market is ignored and the little kids keep me occupied for 5 minutes then give me something for being here 5 minutes is the market.

PvP is a 100% joke because its gear based not skill based, you constantly nerf due to PvP QQ and in the process of ruining the PvE game, and now you allow mindless immaturity to run rampant in the genreal chats, and all you do is tell people to leave the chat instead of smacking the rule breaker on the *** and putting them in time out. You will gain more respect from your community by upholding the rules you have listed in teh TOS then by telling the people who follow the rules just to ignore the ones who don't.
Just beause YOU define somethign as spam does not make it so. It is general chat. They are generally chatting and having fun while playing the game. This happened in WoW but instead it was Murlock. It was FUN. Just relax, make your chat window bigger so things dont get ran off the screen as quickly and relax. You have the GTN for selling items and group finder for finding groups.

The admin has also suggested finding a guild. This is also great advice.

Again, I understand you are frustrated. But you do not get to decide what is spam and determine that that what others are doing is violating terms of use. I don't personally feel like what you are describing constitutes spam.

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Kourage
07.10.2012 , 08:24 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Hizoka View Post
you are missing the point i think. Mature people shouldn't have to ignore and leave a chat because a handful of "little kids" spam the hell out of the chat. It is in your TOS that spaming and making gameplay unpleasent for others is against the rules and subject to action.


Why is it that we have to leave the chat instead of you actually punishing the offenders. I know you guys run a business but you will drive away more peopel then you keep by rewarding people for breaking the rules and doing what they are told to do. This reward for transfering server was a bad idea, instead you should of just said you had until the end of the month to freely move your characters or they will be deleted. By constantly giving people a new gift for doing what they are supposed to do and NEVER punishing them for breaking the rules you get this kinda trsh in the game.


15 years ago MMOs were games for gamers, not its seems like the "gamer" market is ignored and the little kids keep me occupied for 5 minutes then give me something for being here 5 minutes is the market.

PvP is a 100% joke because its gear based not skill based, you constantly nerf due to PvP QQ and in the process of ruining the PvE game, and now you allow mindless immaturity to run rampant in the genreal chats, and all you do is tell people to leave the chat instead of smacking the rule breaker on the *** and putting them in time out. You will gain more respect from your community by upholding the rules you have listed in teh TOS then by telling the people who follow the rules just to ignore the ones who don't.
Those are full grown adults, men and women.
And it's not spam.
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Rafaman
07.10.2012 , 08:35 AM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Kourage View Post
Those are full grown adults, men and women.
And it's not spam.
It is unfortunate but this^^ is correct. Most of the time the so called offenders aren't kiddies. The fact is that anonymity brings out the worst in people.

But to be honest, I turn off general chat quite often. Not really because of the content but mainly because I don't want to miss messages from guildies. I really don't try to keep up with what is going on in general chat anyway. It is only relevant if you make it relevant.

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TUXs
07.10.2012 , 08:37 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Kourage View Post
Those are full grown adults, men and women.
And it's not spam.
It may not qualify as "spam", but it would certainly qualify as trolling, which isn't permitted here on the forums, nor should it be permitted in-game. If your trolling in General Chat becomes a disruption, you should be silenced. Having "fun" doesn't mean you can do whatever you like. I understand it's a fine line, but it's fairly clear when it's crossed.
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AelixVII
07.10.2012 , 08:39 AM | #60
It's a community bonding thing imo. Jawa movie titles is better than what my server (Nightmare Lands EU) is currently going through. Goat chat. Goat Movie titles sometimes. Why Goats? who knows.