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End Game Woes & the LFG Tool without an iLvL ?

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End Game Woes & the LFG Tool without an iLvL ?

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Suromir
07.08.2012 , 01:15 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by monkgryphon View Post
Unless he can do it. I mean, I can probably make a Bird House out of fisher price tools.
you're just being simple here.

it's not to keep someone from enjoying the game, it's to keep the other 3 (7 in OPs) from having theirs ruined.

there should be a gear requirement for each queue with the LFG..fact.

you're extremely rude and arrogant to go into an HM FP (or Ops of either difficulty) w/o the health/mana/dps required to complete it. if you can't perform YOU are wasting EVERYONE ELSE'S time. fact.

they need to add a minimum gear iLvl requirement to queue for HM's and OPs of any flavor...set it to what is actually needed.....if you want to be carried through something by 3/7 others then get a guild and have them do it.

seriously, it's the undergeared person that's being arrogant/selfish here..not those simply asking someone be able to CONTRIBUTE (in a meaningful way) to a run.

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Mallorik
07.08.2012 , 01:19 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
You are reading my point backwards. It's the other people complaining that they have to carry others and want them removed from being able to try.
Nobody is trying to prevent anyone from trying new content. You just seem tot hink there should be no effort needed at all to progress in cotnent. You think its fine for someone to just skip content and the people who didnt skip it should be fine with picking up the slack.

You have been ranting on this board about people being "lazy" for months and months, yet you think it is just fine for someone to ding 50, que up for a hm fp in their green gear and expect a group of strangers to work twice as hard or even worse fail over and over wracking up a repair bill.

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KitePolaris
07.08.2012 , 01:23 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Mallorik View Post
Nobody is trying to prevent anyone from trying new content. You just seem tot hink there should be no effort needed at all to progress in cotnent. You think its fine for someone to just skip content and the people who didnt skip it should be fine with picking up the slack.

You have been ranting on this board about people being "lazy" for months and months, yet you think it is just fine for someone to ding 50, que up for a hm fp in their green gear and expect a group of strangers to work twice as hard or even worse fail over and over wracking up a repair bill.
Not only that, he gives the distinct impression it's everyone else's fault if this fresh 50 doesn't gear up. I have 4 50s. Every time I hit 50 o a new toon, the first thing I do is use all my comms to get mods from vendors and stick them in my gear and queue up for normals since the gear they drop is still decent. I have the humility and the respect for other players to not rush straight into HMs, let alone T2 HMs and the operations. Why should I rest my success betting on other people's efforts to get me there?

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Mallorik
07.08.2012 , 01:26 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by KitePolaris View Post
Not only that, he gives the distinct impression it's everyone else's fault if this fresh 50 doesn't gear up. I have 4 50s. Every time I hit 50 o a new toon, the first thing I do is use all my comms to get mods from vendors and stick them in my gear and queue up for normals since the gear they drop is still decent. I have the humility and the respect for other players to not rush straight into HMs, let alone T2 HMs and the operations. Why should I rest my success betting on other people's efforts to get me there?
And that is the way it is meant to be, The gear aside, i dont care how good you think you are at playing your class. When you hit 50 running normal mode fps will make you better.

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Daethorz
07.08.2012 , 01:31 PM | #55
Havent ran into issues yet with it, i started queing in full battlemaster.

Issue now is repetitiveness & not enough content to be amused, starting to feel like 4.3 Dragonsoul all over again sadly.

I will grab recruit gear & que for HM level 1's as soon as i hit 50, i feel i have enough skill to make up for my gear.
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KitePolaris
07.08.2012 , 01:34 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Daethorz View Post
Havent ran into issues yet with it, i started queing in full battlemaster.

Issue now is repetitiveness & not enough content to be amused, starting to feel like 4.3 Dragonsoul all over again sadly.

I will grab recruit gear & que for HM level 1's as soon as i hit 50, i feel i have enough skill to make up for my gear.
You've obviously never healed a Pyro PT in DPS recurit gear queued as a tank in a T2 HM.

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Desdecardo
07.08.2012 , 01:44 PM | #57
Well... you can just inspect their gear before they start. Pretty easy thing to do. Thats what I do.

And its really not that important for hardmodes flashpoints unless the rest of the team stinks. I've carrier people through those just so they could get the gear. Had the tank and dps with not a single piece of lvl 50 gear and we healed through and dropped HK without enraging.

I would suggest not complaining so much, points out your own flaws if you have to notice those things. And maybe stop playing games. Sounds like its a bit too stressful your your tastes.

And besides... most high end sets have mods that dont really make sense sometimes. So if you really want the perfect gear you are going to need to do a lot more work with a social guild like the OPs.

Also, if your healer can heal through 5-10 seconds of an enrage on a HM Flashpoint, they need to work on their gear.

Plus how would you figure out iLVL when the majority of the gear is modable? Makes the game even more dumbed down because you can just look at their gear and tell them to bugger off if the gear doesnt meet your high standards.
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KitePolaris
07.08.2012 , 01:46 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Desdecardo View Post
Plus how would you figure out iLVL when the majority of the gear is modable? Makes the game even more dumbed down because you can just look at their gear and tell them to bugger off if the gear doesnt meet your high standards.
Gear already has an ilevel. And when you switch mods in and out, it changes with them. I.E. 140, 124, 136.

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Skidrowbro
07.08.2012 , 01:48 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Mallorik View Post
Nobody is trying to prevent anyone from trying new content. You just seem tot hink there should be no effort needed at all to progress in cotnent. You think its fine for someone to just skip content and the people who didnt skip it should be fine with picking up the slack.

You have been ranting on this board about people being "lazy" for months and months, yet you think it is just fine for someone to ding 50, que up for a hm fp in their green gear and expect a group of strangers to work twice as hard or even worse fail over and over wracking up a repair bill.
First off, if you read my earlier posts in this thread, I have said HM's should not have been included with the LFG. Players should not be pugging HM's with randoms. All that is going to lead to is people like you complaining and the players who aren't geared complaining and asking for nerfs.

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Desdecardo
07.08.2012 , 01:48 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Suromir View Post
seriously, it's the undergeared person that's being arrogant/selfish here..not those simply asking someone be able to CONTRIBUTE (in a meaningful way) to a run.
Its not under geared its under experienced. I've seen under geared people still out dps someone in full col gear. You can have people in the best gear and still stink. You can have someone who knows their roll and can bust through a HM.

To say someone who is under geared is immediately a load, is a generalization.
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