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The time line between trilogies dose not seem to fit....

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The time line between trilogies dose not seem to fit....

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JasonPogo
07.04.2012 , 12:26 PM | #1
I was just watching the original trilogy today and things just don't add up. For one at the end of the new trilogy
Obi-Wan Kenobi is like one of the best jedi warriors in the whole galaxy. So much so that he defeats Anikin. But fast forward to the original trilogy which has to be like what 18 years later? He is an old man who is only a shadow of what he once was. How did he age SO much in just 18 years....

Also there is the Moffs that are talking to Vader in the first movie. They downplay the Force and act like it is an old religion that was all superstition... Now I know the Empire defeated the Jedi but even so those Moffs are old enough to have fought in the war and would know they were no pushovers and all superstition. They just talk like the Force had been gone for far longer than 18 years
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E-Zekiel
07.04.2012 , 12:48 PM | #2
You haven't lived in fascism I think.

The propaganda is so hardcore that people really do start believing it was all superstition/tricks/etc etc.

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Wolfninjajedi
07.04.2012 , 12:57 PM | #3
Where did you get the time was only 18 years? But as to Obi-Wan looking so old, being in hiding, a shut in, plus also dealing with the fact that your being hunted and the fact all your jedi brethren are dead, plus stress will make anyone look old.
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07.04.2012 , 01:12 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
Where did you get the time was only 18 years? But as to Obi-Wan looking so old, being in hiding, a shut in, plus also dealing with the fact that your being hunted and the fact all your jedi brethren are dead, plus stress will make anyone look old.
He got the "18 years" thing from the fact the RotS takes place 19 BBY.

Short answer for you OP is that stress of being hunted by the empire and the intensity from Tattooine's two suns rapidly increased the aging in Obi-Wans face and hair.

And to your other question: The amount of Imperial propaganda was extremely high in the Dark times. Many people eventually came to believe that the Force actually WAS just superstitious nonsense.
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kirorx
07.04.2012 , 03:18 PM | #5
Yeah obiwan is really old in ANH, i have thought the same thing.

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bionamaster
07.04.2012 , 03:42 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by JasonPogo View Post
I was just watching the original trilogy today and things just don't add up. For one at the end of the new trilogy
Obi-Wan Kenobi is like one of the best jedi warriors in the whole galaxy. So much so that he defeats Anikin. But fast forward to the original trilogy which has to be like what 18 years later? He is an old man who is only a shadow of what he once was. How did he age SO much in just 18 years....

Also there is the Moffs that are talking to Vader in the first movie. They downplay the Force and act like it is an old religion that was all superstition... Now I know the Empire defeated the Jedi but even so those Moffs are old enough to have fought in the war and would know they were no pushovers and all superstition. They just talk like the Force had been gone for far longer than 18 years
Beat me to the punch. The ages don't add up. Obi Wan was probably 40 or so when he defeated Anakin on Mustafar. 20 years later, logically he should be 60. Instead, he's 75-80. As for the Moffs, it's an interesting point. They could just be ignorant with disturbing lacks of faith, but we'll never know.
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Darth_Urtani
07.04.2012 , 03:44 PM | #7
Why do people make excuses to try and convince others that SW just doesn't make any sense (especially the PT)?
It's kind of funny really, it's like they're trying to convince themselves.
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Liquidacid
07.04.2012 , 05:04 PM | #8
as far as the people thinking the jedi were just myth and superstition you also have to remember in a galaxy with 20 million sapient species spread across millions of worlds there were still only 10,000 jedi during the time of the prequels so pretty much 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999 percent of the population never saw a jedi even when they were around... a lot of them thought the stories about jedi were just myths, stories and exaggerations even before the empire came and spouted propaganda and basically wiped all records of them from existence
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GarfieldJL
07.04.2012 , 05:51 PM | #9
Obi Wan was probably early 20's in Phantom Menace, Anakin Skywalker was like 9 years old.

Obi Wan would probaly have been late 20's to early 30's by the time of episode II.

Question is how long did the Clone Wars last, judging from how much Anakin seemed to have aged, I'd say 5 to 10 years. That could actually put Obi Wan into his 40's by the time of Episode III.

So we could be seeing Obi Wan in his 60s, bear in mind that it could simply be that Obi Wan's hair went grey early and he was younger than he looked.

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Liquidacid
07.04.2012 , 06:40 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by GarfieldJL View Post
Obi Wan was probably early 20's in Phantom Menace, Anakin Skywalker was like 9 years old.

Obi Wan would probaly have been late 20's to early 30's by the time of episode II.

Question is how long did the Clone Wars last, judging from how much Anakin seemed to have aged, I'd say 5 to 10 years. That could actually put Obi Wan into his 40's by the time of Episode III.

So we could be seeing Obi Wan in his 60s, bear in mind that it could simply be that Obi Wan's hair went grey early and he was younger than he looked.
according to lore he was 57 in ANH

he also lived as a hermit in a desert for 19 years... that environment isn't exactly conducive to keeping a youthful look
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