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To the careless fools using the Group Finder

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To the careless fools using the Group Finder

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Aurojiin
07.04.2012 , 02:16 PM | #61
As a healer, having bad pulls and poor aggro management in HM FPs makes things more enjoyable, to a point. It's fun to see how much stupid you can heal through.

Once the tipping point is reached and we're wiping to trash pulls, it's time for a reassessment.

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EternalChild
07.04.2012 , 04:35 PM | #62
My impressions after 1 week of using the Group Finder.
1) Group finder works great for lvl50 hard mode flashpoints. The problem is, most people are overgeared, so it is not very interesting. Where are all these newbies you are talking about?
2) After one unpleasant experience in KP (no one wanted to do the puzzle at fabricator, and when we tried to explain it, people started to leave) i decided never to queue for ops again.

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PariahMessiah
07.04.2012 , 06:26 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by OmenQ View Post
Also: If you chose the DPS role, don't try to be a healer or a tank. You're probably not specced or geared for it, and if you are, you should have chosen the proper role.
Actually if you queue up a group it will ignore what you have picked for your roles and default you to roles your class can fill.

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TrooperCam
07.04.2012 , 07:12 PM | #64
I would say I'm 80% happy with it, maybe even higher.

As a new to this type of mmo I appreciate the tips above but due to the nature of this game there is no actual way to learn from other players whilst in game. The only way is to read the boards and alot of casual players would never know they are here.

I personally would appreciate the feedback whilst tanking but the ones who offer it up tend to be very general in there comments rather than saying hey don't forget to turn around and see if the healer is ok. So in the end you feel that they are perhaps blaming you for their lack of skills or equipment.

An example is Taral 5 when you reach that double mob just after a bridge. I have sailed through there many times without a wipe except for one night with 2 dps with over 20k HP each we wiped twice in the same spot. Now immediately it was the tanks fault because the 18k tank didnt pick up the agro but you could argue that the dps should have been ready with the aoe rather than trying to pew pew them one at a time.

I think BW should try and more closely match players in terms of HP that being probably the easiest to align. Also some tips in the loading screen like the ones posted above might be good to get some of this knowledge out into the game.
Somewhere in Dalborra.

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chaosme
07.04.2012 , 07:22 PM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by PariahMessiah View Post
Actually if you queue up a group it will ignore what you have picked for your roles and default you to roles your class can fill.
I have encountered this once when it filled me for a dps role while queue only as heals. But this was supposedly fixed after the maintenance on Tue according to the patch notes. Have you encountered this again after that maintenance?

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HileyQuiggley
07.04.2012 , 09:27 PM | #66
I play a dps gunnery commando. Im way way over geared for HM FP's. I do them once to get my comms. I like to rush on through them as fast as possible. Skip as much and as many bosses as possible and lead the charge. I can tank almost all of those bosses. So if your with me, i hope you like a quick run, if your after the story part or want to take your time. Good luck to you, ill just drop and find another group.

Groupfinder is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your going to get. I dont have time to baby a 12k guardian through it.
The Gunnery Commando
Quiggley DownUnder

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wainot-keel
07.04.2012 , 10:05 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by HileyQuiggley View Post
I play a dps gunnery commando. Im way way over geared for HM FP's. I do them once to get my comms. I like to rush on through them as fast as possible. Skip as much and as many bosses as possible and lead the charge. I can tank almost all of those bosses. So if your with me, i hope you like a quick run, if your after the story part or want to take your time. Good luck to you, ill just drop and find another group.

Groupfinder is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your going to get. I dont have time to baby a 12k guardian through it.
Oh, it looks like running a FP with you would be a really fun and delightful experience

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PariahMessiah
07.04.2012 , 10:26 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosme View Post
I have encountered this once when it filled me for a dps role while queue only as heals. But this was supposedly fixed after the maintenance on Tue according to the patch notes. Have you encountered this again after that maintenance?
Today. Me and 6 guildmembers queued up for a SM ops for some quick BH comms short 1 tank, it kept putting the shadow as a tank. It also marked the DPS sage as healer and the healer sage as DPS.

Quote: Originally Posted by HileyQuiggly
I play a dps gunnery commando. Im way way over geared for HM FP's. I do them once to get my comms. I like to rush on through them as fast as possible. Skip as much and as many bosses as possible and lead the charge. I can tank almost all of those bosses. So if your with me, i hope you like a quick run, if your after the story part or want to take your time. Good luck to you, ill just drop and find another group.
Also massively outgear the FPs but this mentality is one of the reasons I never wanted to see a LFG tool especially one that rewards just using it. Hated this in WoW and don't want to see it spread here.

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EternalChild
07.05.2012 , 12:44 AM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by HileyQuiggley View Post
I play a dps gunnery commando. Im way way over geared for HM FP's. I do them once to get my comms. I like to rush on through them as fast as possible. Skip as much and as many bosses as possible and lead the charge. I can tank almost all of those bosses. So if your with me, i hope you like a quick run, if your after the story part or want to take your time. Good luck to you, ill just drop and find another group.
Groupfinder is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your going to get. I dont have time to baby a 12k guardian through it.
Well, after you leave you will be locked out of GF for 15 minutes,. And after that good luck to you finding another group, could well take another 10 minutes for a DPS. While the group you just left will just summon a companion in your place and proceed. Most (if not all) of T1 hard modes can be done with 2 companions in place of DPS players.

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chaosme
07.05.2012 , 01:12 AM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by PariahMessiah View Post
Today. Me and 6 guildmembers queued up for a SM ops for some quick BH comms short 1 tank, it kept putting the shadow as a tank. It also marked the DPS sage as healer and the healer sage as DPS.
This does look like a problem that they have yet again failed to fix. You should submit a ticket to CS to let them know that this issue is still happening. It's not so bad if you're doing in a pre-made group so you can sort out the responsibilities yourself, but this really sucks if you end up in a PUG group with roles wrongly assigned.