To the careless fools using the Group Finder

What helps me as both tank and dps, (i dont have a healer yet), is to have the target of target turned on. If i am tanking with randoms through the GF, i ask the dps to target through me, that way they dont attack anything that shouldnt be attacked. As a dps i use it to target through the tank to kill whatever he has taunted. if people havent got it turned on its really quick to do and is very helpful especially in groups where everyone is a new meet. I also find that this helps the healer as everyone is not running everywhere else.

I play healer often (in this game and in WOW back when I played it) and I don't like this weird chip on the shoulder some healers have about dps pulling aggro and so they're gonna let them die.

guess what, I'm a healer. I'll try my best to keep everyone alive. period.

and if someone's doing something wrong, no matter what it is, maybe I'll try to advise them on how to play better.

but if I'm a healer, I'm healing everyone, whether I like them or not. because that's the job.

Is this your first MMO? It has always been like this.

This. I've been doing both healing and tanking (on 2 different characters, of course) and as healer on many GF groups the DPS pulling aggro early has forced me to waste resources on them meaning the tank goes dangerously low.

* Always kill the weakest mobs first. I don't care if you want to demonstrate how much damage your full rotation will do to that elite/champion, I want the 4 weak mobs shooting at everyone dead before that.

* Use Crowd Control! It is not manly to charge into a pack of strongs and elites and expect the tank/healer to keep you alive. And far more time is wasted on a wipe than by Cc'ing a mob or 2.

* If you are not the tank, don't wake the controlled mobs for him/her. If you ARE the tank, do not wake any controlled mobs until the healer has had a chance to top off. Waiting 3-4 seconds won't kill you, not checking that the healer actually has the resources to go on could do so.

The Joy of having LFG server only and the ignore button. Don't complain about them on the board. Even if they did read it they would just argue with you. Put em on ignore. Enough people do and they may learn.

how is the Group finder a bad thing? the worst thing about it is that people don't tag themselves as the right role. I'm a guardian tank and i was auto tagged as damage and tanking. the solution you ask? well, i untagged damage. it's that simple.

I have both a tank and a healer in this game, but haven't tried many of the HM FP's yet. (waiting for guild runs mainly to learn fights before starting to use group finder), but from previous group finder games, I did let DPS who pulled before the tank die. no matter which role tank or healer I was playing as a sign they shouldn't be doing that.

My main reason not to be using it yet, is my guild hasn't had much interest in the HM's, and I don't want to drag a group down, when i'm learning a boss encounter and causing frustration for the rest of the group.

my only complaints so far with the group finder are the following: racing through the zone, tanks not watching where their group members are or their health/power, dps not healing themselves after combat wanting the healer to do it on the run, dps constantly pulling agro and not using a deagro, no one keeping mobs off the healer, tank pulling more than what he can handle and people thinking they know the encounters but really don't.

my major complaint is new 50s or 50s with a few hm pieces queueing up for all of the hms in order to get the daily bh coms. i have had a 13k hp gs in kaon dying repeatedly for example because of this. i really dont blame him for queueing up as he never been to kaon and was just trying to get gear. the game really needs to do something about this.

so far i had to put on ignore only one person and that was a terrible tank. sadly i ran into him twice, first time on a alt and again on my main. the guy just didn't believe in cc and leeroyed every encounter. both times we didn't finish the zone with him. he had decent gear when i inspected him but i don't think he had a good spec or rotation. guard was never used by him either time. just sad.

Not knowing the fights and using the GF isn't an issue for most people. As long as you are geared for the content (tionese/daily level gear - armor rating 126+), and aren't a total idiot. The issue you will run into is not telling your tank that this is your first time running the instance, you don't know the fights, and your gear is a bit low. Most tanks assume the healer (even an undergeared one) will be able to keep them up so they save their cool downs for emergencies. If you let the tank know ahead of time, he will use his cool downs more appropriately to mitigate more of the damage rather then saving them for emergencies. As far as not knowing the fights, most of them are simple for healers and easily and can be quickly explained in chat if you just ask before hand. Don't stand in red or purple circles, stay out of lightning arcs, when a boss pulls you in - run away (purge the slow off yourself), if the boss targets another player it usually can't be taunted back so keep that player healed.

Well, in my short experience with my healer I'll take a tank with crappy tanking gear rather than a "tank" with full dps gear.
That was the first really unpleasant experience with the group finder, couple of nights ago, with a Juggernaut. Guy started complaining about some close calls. Until in a boss fight died and we wiped. "Healer, where are my heals ?" Checked out his gear and called him out on it. Dude ragequit there. Ingore +1

I don't mind ppl with bad gear, or like in this case, with the wrong gear for the job. If we let the others know and everybody is ok with it, it's not bad.