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[Artifice] No money maker...

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Elminster_cs
07.02.2012 , 07:34 PM | #1
Why artifice is totaly useless...???
Simple... with a few daily and few time you can have what you whant...

you can craft enachment totally useless (you can have it in a few day doing daily...)

you can craft hilt... oh wait you can just buy a better one on for 8 daily comm.... nice...

you can craft relics... oh yeah the first 2 are BoP

You can craft sword... totaly useless... Blu (level 23?) enachment, mod, ecc inside are worst then the purple 22... that as i say you can gain with daily...

You can craft augment sabers... try... and try... and try to get it... oh wait i can just buy an augmentation kit... so totaly useless...

You can craft campaing relic... oh yes.... you have to farm about 10 day and try to reverse one... probably it will take a month to get a schematics... and then when you have it? Nobody but it... they just do 10 day of daily... because you can obtain them in another way... be serious... no way to make money with them.

So at least the crystal. Ehm... the most beautiful are gained from PvP vendor and you can't reverse them. There is no way to get a beutiful recipe for making good money, you have to farm a lot and when you are lucky you can sell a +41 endurance (random color) for 30k... yeah... but you have just spent much more for doing it.

The only way is the +41 expertise one. But color SUCK and nobody bought them, crating them is impossible, you have to drop the schematics with 1000 wz commendation... then 2 Flux for each crystal... AND NOBODY BUY THEM!!!!!! And for those ones that take this profession before 1.2 and are PvErs? -.-"

there are no way to make money with this profession, no way to craft anythig usefull to your characters.

So the question is. Dear Bioware what is the economy behid artifice? Why all artifice stuff can be gained in another way, and other profession does not have this problem?

There is another way to obtain augmentation kit? No... and no better
There is another way to obtain augment? No... and no better
There is another way to obtain medpack and stim? No... and no better
There is a way to obtain all artifice stuff? Yes... also better...

I don't really catch the point. Sorry. So frustrating.

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AxeX
07.02.2012 , 11:58 PM | #2
I craft level 26 Hilts, sell them for 2-3mil each, very quickly too. Mats are practically free from guild's raiding.

Artifice is profitable.

EDIT: Here's another tidbit. People talk about being able to get full Campaign/Black Hole level gear through wearing Tionese with Black Hole mods, the offhand, implants and earpiece, and the relics through dailies (or as of now PvP).

You can't get the hilts or barrels through Black Hole comms, you have to raid HM EC, or pay out the *** to have them crafted.
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Elminster_cs
07.03.2012 , 07:47 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by AxeX View Post
I craft level 26 Hilts, sell them for 2-3mil each, very quickly too. Mats are practically free from guild's raiding.

Artifice is profitable.

EDIT: Here's another tidbit. People talk about being able to get full Campaign/Black Hole level gear through wearing Tionese with Black Hole mods, the offhand, implants and earpiece, and the relics through dailies (or as of now PvP).

You can't get the hilts or barrels through Black Hole comms, you have to raid HM EC, or pay out the *** to have them crafted.
What you say is quite right, yes you can make this thing, but there are no exlusive!!! Tell me why people have to buy this thing, pay milions credit when they can just ride a bit to get them? Enachment, hilt, and so on are already in the item that you buy... Is there any way (for exaple) to obtain augmentation kin or some augment? NO... idem for biochem and many other thing. Artifice has no exlusive item, and for making some enacment, hilt (that only stupid i think will buy one, they are already in the tier...) you have to farm a month, first you need recipe (20% reverse for a schematics...) that is insede a campaign gear... so 1 a week.. 2 max... and there is no certainty you will get the schematic... later you have to farm matherial... also other member of the raid need them and you can do it one time a weak... lockout... so not so easy to farm... and then? You can only craft this thing FOR YOUR CLASS... yes because if you whant other class... you have to buy useless gear... nice!

Sinthweaving can craft in easy way augment (150k each) and they are EXLUSIVE... no other way to obtain them... and also augmentation kit 60k each... oh yeah artifice is money maker... there is no balance betwen crew skill.

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Blev
07.03.2012 , 08:05 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by AxeX View Post
I craft level 26 Hilts, sell them for 2-3mil each, very quickly too. Mats are practically free from guild's raiding.

Artifice is profitable.

EDIT: Here's another tidbit. People talk about being able to get full Campaign/Black Hole level gear through wearing Tionese with Black Hole mods, the offhand, implants and earpiece, and the relics through dailies (or as of now PvP).

You can't get the hilts or barrels through Black Hole comms, you have to raid HM EC, or pay out the *** to have them crafted.
You're talking about a very limited amount of people that is going to have access to something like the Hilts seeing as those come from Hard Mode Kephess. Part of the issue is that is just so damn time consuming in comparison. It costs 200 Daily Comms to buy the relics and praying you get lucky on the RE. Which means you're maybe doing 1 RE every 7 days assuming you do dailies every single day which used to take me 2-3 hours.

Alternatively, you could take a shot on REing the Enhancements from the Blackhole gear and pray you get lucky there. That is probably easier and slightly faster than the relics (assuming you can get through SM Denova anyways).

The main thing is, in comparison with the other professions, they have much easier access to things that sell whereas Artifice really doesn't.
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evanfardreamer
07.03.2012 , 08:10 AM | #5
I, too, desperately hope that Artifice gets some attention in the next couple of patches. I would love to see us with craftable lightsabers - other than the Custom or Elegant - that Artifice can craft while leveling, like the Primal Champion green sabers that drop all over. Beyond that, increasing the colors of crystal available while leveling - instead of just RBGY - would be great for folks who don't want to wait for 50 to have their desired saber color (like my Sentinel's orange).

I don't have the experience with the other crew skills to say that there's an imbalance, but I definitely see less utility out of my Artificer than my Cybertech (who is only at 350, and already making more parts for my gear).

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DarthTHC
07.03.2012 , 09:12 AM | #6
This is funny. They one guy I know with ALL the credit sink toys is an Artificer.

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Elminster_cs
07.03.2012 , 09:27 AM | #7
They can do some thing to improve artifice, as you say

- not only RGBY low level crystal.

But also:

- put a standard color crystal in all weapon, and like augment, the only way to obtain new color is the artifice way...very, very simple! Maybe the schematics are rare to obtain, world boss, denova hard, lot of PvP and so on, BUT GIVE TO THE ARTIFICE the possibility to craft them!!!! It no sense they can keep all crystal in other way!!!

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Cmdluke
07.03.2012 , 09:31 AM | #8
I make plenty of cash with artifice now. just make tons of lvl 49 green focus/shield/generator then RE to get the augment mat. I sell those and make bank.

also, the +41 crystals sell pretty well. just pick up the schems from the daily vendor or pvp vendor.
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wainot-keel
07.03.2012 , 09:42 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Cmdluke View Post
I make plenty of cash with artifice now. just make tons of lvl 49 green focus/shield/generator then RE to get the augment mat. I sell those and make bank.
What ? Did they change it ? I thought only the 3 professions able to craft augment kits (synth, armstech, armomech) were too the only ones able to produce those mats. I re-read the 1.3 patches and I couldn't find anything on this.

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Vizzinni
07.03.2012 , 09:51 AM | #10
Only the 3 can make the Augment Kits, but on my Artifice I craft the lvl 48+ green shields, and on RE you get a augment mk-6 component. I also do it on my Biochem, I craft lvl 48+ implants and RE them for the same thing.
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