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Future of PVP


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RamataKahn
12.18.2011 , 08:30 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by RJChief View Post
You Q for a warzone, get in and leap into action against a lvl 15 noob that hasn't even reached Couresant yet. And what do ya know, that little lvl 15 kills you.. r
Yeah that doesn't happen.

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RJChief
12.18.2011 , 08:33 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by RamataKahn View Post
Yeah that doesn't happen.
And it shouldn't... that's my point. So to cry about not being able to kill lvl 50's at lvl 15 is to say that lvl 50's should die to lvl 15's
Back off... And let me do my Job.
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AngusOg
12.18.2011 , 08:44 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by BoredOfMMOS View Post
its called skill try it out
getting roflstomped is part of learning
*** does this even mean? skill? It has nothing to do with skill ya tool. It is totally a difference in SKILLs abilities and gear at this point. The most skillful level 10 in the game is gonna have a problem ...especially if that person is a melee class. So how about you use some logic here. It makes no damn sense whatsoever to have level 50's or even level 20's in the same warzone as a fresh level 10.

*** Bioware? I know you haven't done an MMO before but really? this should be common damn sense to the most casual observer. Yeah I know you have bolster. But it does not replace the skills/talents/armor/what-have-you of a level 50 compared to a level 10.

Very lame pvp design. VERY LAME. So much potential too. When I happen to actually have a warzone where there aren't level 30+ this game is fun as hell. But the level difference is very noticeable when they are there.

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RamataKahn
12.18.2011 , 08:45 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by RJChief View Post
And it shouldn't... that's my point. So to cry about not being able to kill lvl 50's at lvl 15 is to say that lvl 50's should die to lvl 15's
No, but they need to have brackets instead.

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DarthDerpDerp
12.18.2011 , 08:51 PM | #15
I agree on brackets, boosted to the top of the bracket, ala Warhammer.

And to the people parroting skill, WoW armory link or ****. Thing is, anyone over 2200 will weigh in on the side of logic that says 'yes, you have too few of your AC abilities available before skill even enters in.

YES, you can stand in the back, and try to not get waffled. That's not a skill...that's waiting your turn to have fun.
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mufutiz
12.18.2011 , 09:09 PM | #16
the thread starter totally has a point, disregard all the poor trolls in this thread.

bolstering in and by itself is great but no brackets in PvP is a horrible idea. A separate 50 bracket is a must, but I think 10-30 31-49 would also work really well. current system is poop.

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Thundermace
12.18.2011 , 09:33 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Acolytus View Post
Imagine this... A new player just finishes his/her starter world quests and arrives at his/her fraction's space station for the first time. He/She meets his advanced class trainer and makes his/her choice. He/She then goes to a quest giving vender and receives a quest to go to a war zone...

He/She queues into the war zone excited to try out SWTOR PVP... He/She leaves the safe zone... and...


POW Fully PVP geared Level 50 Juggernaut Leaps at him, CC, Force Choke, AOE, Slow, CC, Pew Pew.

DEAD.

Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope. He/She ain't going back for another 40 levels.

Yeah. Really. Is this the kind of "non-ganking" pvp that you designed us to have BW?
Use of "he/she" may give you a politically correct warm fuzzy, but it's distracting as heck if you're actually trying to communicate something with your writing.

You might have had a good point in here somewhere, but who can tell?

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vulturesrow
12.18.2011 , 09:42 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Acolytus View Post
Imagine this... A new player just finishes his/her starter world quests and arrives at his/her fraction's space station for the first time. He/She meets his advanced class trainer and makes his/her choice. He/She then goes to a quest giving vender and receives a quest to go to a war zone...

He/She queues into the war zone excited to try out SWTOR PVP... He/She leaves the safe zone... and...


POW Fully PVP geared Level 50 Juggernaut Leaps at him, CC, Force Choke, AOE, Slow, CC, Pew Pew.

DEAD.

Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope. He/She ain't going back for another 40 levels.

Yeah. Really. Is this the kind of "non-ganking" pvp that you designed us to have BW?
He/shes? Are you saying there are transvestites in the Warzones who are detracting from your PvP fun? Or that the future of PvP in SWTOR involves them somehow?

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raafi
12.19.2011 , 12:27 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Acolytus View Post
Imagine this... A new player just finishes his/her starter world quests and arrives at his/her fraction's space station for the first time. He/She meets his advanced class trainer and makes his/her choice. He/She then goes to a quest giving vender and receives a quest to go to a war zone...

He/She queues into the war zone excited to try out SWTOR PVP... He/She leaves the safe zone... and...


POW Fully PVP geared Level 50 Juggernaut Leaps at him, CC, Force Choke, AOE, Slow, CC, Pew Pew.

DEAD.

Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope. He/She ain't going back for another 40 levels.

Yeah. Really. Is this the kind of "non-ganking" pvp that you designed us to have BW?


lol, sorry but i have to say it. youmadbro?? haha
the pvp issue(if there is any) is too soon to tell if it's imbalanced or just fine.
i will agree, it's a bit wired. they seem to match just about every level in the random bg's... but they even out with the buff's, increase in damage, increase in hit points etc

i think this is just for starters. let people get the feel for it right now, and then they will bring level ranges later.