Lore wise, which class would win?

The truth is that trained Force users (Jedi and Sith especially) are incredibly hard to kill for non-Force users.

Really, if it was as simple as setting up a railgun sniper rifle and taking shots at Jedi from 2 kilometers away, then the Empire wouldn't have any difficulty wiping the Jedi out in direct battles - conversely, Sith would be just meatshields in ground combat if there was a simple way to take them out.

Jedi - and Sith as well - can't be reliably defeated with any one tactic. It requires luck, skill, and above all, the Will of the Force, because of the Force wants you to fail, you're going to fail hard.

in the star wars universe jedi always wins, it makes no difference which class of jedi, the answer is, jedi wins

I guess the force wanted the Green Jedi on Corellia to fail hard, then, cause I was mowing them down and I definitely didn't have to vary my tactics. So as long as we're going with what "the Force wants" the question is kinda irrelevant because if "the Force wants" the agent to beat the Jedi, the Jedi is just gonna die.

Between Order 66 and the various planet quests in swtor, I think the idea that trained "normals" can't take trained force-users is pretty much bunk.

You're assuming the enemies in the class quest are harder than enemies fought elsewhere.

Gameplay is not Lore. This thread is about which class is stronger according to the lore.

If we were going by gameplay, I'd still say Jedi Knight though. Since he/she

'The Hero of Tython' does defeat the more powerful enemy in the game (as mentioned by the above poster).

So...yes, I think that the more powerful foes are in the class quests.

Just played one class through, but from what I saw and heard by now, by "Importance" it seems a bit unmatched between Force Users and Non-Force Users.

For example, Jedi Knight has to solve planet crisis and the fate of the Jedi on Tython still as a Padawan, while the Smuggler is, well, searching for his ship.

I don't mind that though. It'd be silly if the Trooper, Agent or Smuggler were all about saving the galaxy from big bad monsters. Instead, the Trooper (and to an extent, the Agent) fulfils military objectives, the Agent otherwise performs infiltration, sabotage and furthers the interests of the Empire, and the Smuggler just kicks through the Galaxy being suave and sexy and occasionally picking up some riches along the way.

If you recall act 2, going into act 3... Belsavis, the whole corruption thing was solved alongside the ghost problem...


Ignoring the advanced classes, going by lore...

The Inquisitor would kill everyone; despite any counters from Jedi; they don't die - period. They don't seem able due to their reconstructed bodies and 3-5 ghost buddies keeping them pretty much immortal; the Jedi would basically have to out-live the Sith in order to win... and even then, they'll kill the Jedi as a Ghost.

The Agent would be able to tick the others off the most, crippling, destroying, maybe even weakening targets; but only the Trooper would fall hard (after a lengthly, but futile attempt of a fight) due to the fact out of all the targets, the Trooper is too... Uniform.

Smugglers, without a ship... they are ticked off and itching for some dirty fight, they'll dodge knives and counter with a shotgun or a nad kick; they'll use smaller arms and whatever comes to mind to win - I'd argue the closest fight.

Warrior would lose to Knight, sadly, and I'd argue the Counsular would lose with the Warrior for the simple reason... the Warrior is too witty or too vicious for the diplomat (although, I'll admit gameplay not lore would go WAY against that).

and don't even get me started on Bounty Hunters, they'd prob collect the corpses at the end and cash in once the Inquisitor has started violating the Jedi something Chronic... because, you know, she loves torture.

Why does this thread exist... Why?