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Ashara Zavros/Imperial dancer outfit. Are you serious?

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Ashara Zavros/Imperial dancer outfit. Are you serious?

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Arrogus
07.05.2012 , 09:46 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by danielweberdlc View Post
What I find amazing is that Ashara (or Mako, or Kira or, for goodness sake, Kaliyo) would ever agree to wear an outfit like that in public in the first place. I would honestly expect Kaliyo to blow a hole in you larger than the death star before agreeing to wear that thing. And Ashara is supposed to be this shy, socially awkward girl - are we supposed to believe she'd run around wearing a thong and a bikini top?
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In the meantime, my vote is never to fix this bug, and yes, Ashara slipped me 50 credits to post this.
I chalk it up to my character's force of personality. I mean, I make her slaughter Jedi by the hundreds and then sleep with me, I could certainly persuade her to wear a skimpy outfit.

In an "RP" sense, I make her use red lightsaber crystals as a symbol of my domination of her. Making her wear the slave girl outfit would fit my RP perfectly.

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E-Zekiel
07.06.2012 , 06:33 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by danielweberdlc View Post
What I find amazing is that Ashara (or Mako, or Kira or, for goodness sake, Kaliyo) would ever agree to wear an outfit like that in public in the first place. I would honestly expect Kaliyo to blow a hole in you larger than the death star before agreeing to wear that thing. And Ashara is supposed to be this shy, socially awkward girl - are we supposed to believe she'd run around wearing a thong and a bikini top?

The fact BW lets you put that on them really kind of defeats the purpose of even creating a persona for the companions in the first place. Companions should wear outfits that match their character style. Just put an armoring/mod/enhancement socket on the chest piece and have it apply to all their pieces so we just have to upgrade them once.

I could see having some kind of 'match companion outfit to mine' menu option. And I could see having quest rewards (or commendation rewards) to buy additional outfits for our companions, which would match the companions particular tastes and persona, and give us something cool and rewarding to do.

In the meantime, my vote is never to fix this bug, and yes, Ashara slipped me 50 credits to post this.
This logic stops working because sorry but there aren't 500,000 Ashara Zavroses. So "keeping in character" doesn't work so infallibly. Your Ashara is not my Ashara.

I see it like this. My inquisitor and her have a thing, and he slowly opened her eyes over time to express herself as she wants, and not to feel held back by her former Jedi-based reservations. So she doesn't.

For the record, the imperial outfit is not a thong and a bikini top. There are actual pants. And even if the bottom were not a thong, I would only have her wearing the top anyway. I never actually have a companion wear both (on the republic side) because I don't feel it makes sense either, I usually have them wear one or the other.

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danielweberdlc
07.08.2012 , 11:05 PM | #33
I agree there is only one Ashara Zavros - just like there's only one Lord Zash and one Darth Thanaton. My Ashara -is- your Ashara - we're both playing the same story. You can see this very clearly by considering how the story ends - clearly there aren't
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My point is that our companions are a huge part of the story, and what they wear and how they present themselves is a huge part of their persona. Simply giving us the option to dress them however we want takes away from their personality and really doesn't add all that much to the gaming experience. They usually just end up in cast offs and don't even look all that great.

It doesn't have to be that way - imagine that, instead of gaining affection via gifts, you gained affection by doing 'companion quests' - these would be quests that reset daily that had you doing something for (or to) your companion. They would come in a couple of flavors, one that gained 'dark' affection and one that gained 'light' affection.

Get rid of armor and item slots on companions and instead make customization kits with character appropriate looks that you could buy, based on the companions affection level, light or dark. Dark outfits would be more evil looking, and light side outfits would be brown and make their butts look huge. You could also make some social sets for doing RP stuff. (This also solves the issue of clipping on non-human companions on a lot of armor items). Their could also be iconic, one off quests (like we have now on some companions) at key moments, say at rank changes.

Companion damage and healing would scale off your damage and healing.

So, for Ashara, the dark quest would be something that turned her more dark side, maybe forcing her to kill Jedi or something. Light side quests would be finding and helping light side Sith. Additional quests could open up as you gained affection. Things like battle cries and things they say when you click on them would also change, based on the companion light/dark level.

Romances would be based on affection rank, not light/dark. Being in a relationship would also unlock other customization kits, say wedding dresses, date outfits, etc.

Now, you have a system of daily quests that are actually kind of interesting to do, are based on your story, have a mechanism for tangible progress, make your companion feel like a part of your story and character and add depth and immersion to the game. You also add a bunch of stuff into the economy that people are going to want to get and also gives you some way of molding our companions ala KOTOR.

I don't think BW is going to go and do something like this, but it might give you a better idea of what I'm trying to say.

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Einzel
07.09.2012 , 09:56 AM | #34
The true reason why ashara have a bodysuit is that the devs are lazy !!
Because this character can "wear" differents colored faces it's more simple to add an unique bodysuit skin than 1 bodyskin color by facial customisations..
Not matter of background, no matter of ethics, only laziness.

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bpphantom
07.11.2012 , 10:53 AM | #35
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Gwena
07.11.2012 , 08:57 PM | #36
I'm pretty sure the bodysuit was implemented instead of actual skin purely as a time saver. Otherwise, I can't see how in the galaxy the devs would not want Ashara showing skin yet would let you put a slave girl outfit on Akaavi Spar.

I don't even have Ashara yet, but honestly I think this solution to her not having a body texture looks ridiculous. I mean, why the pattern, even? It looks too "busy" IMHO, it would look better if they made it solid black/grey and maybe gave it a slight sheen. Besides, the bodysuit kinda defeats the purpose of the super-sexy skin-baring outfit, y'know?

But look on the bright side! I hear that Aric and Vector (female Trooper & Agent romance options) have built-in clothes instead of normal underwear, so you're not alone and it could be worse.
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danielweberdlc
07.11.2012 , 11:47 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Gwena View Post
I'm pretty sure the bodysuit was implemented instead of actual skin purely as a time saver. Otherwise, I can't see how in the galaxy the devs would not want Ashara showing skin yet would let you put a slave girl outfit on Akaavi Spar.
A lot of companions who are of a non-playable race have the body suit look. Qyzon Fess, for instance.

Also, Ashara has customization kits where you can change her skin color, so they actually have to create several sets of textures.

Plus they have to create them for every additional customization kit, which delays creating new ones, which kind of stinks because she basically has no kits right now, unless you have a security key and the ones on the security key vendor are kind of hideous.

Mandalorians are basically just humans, so the textures are already available. Twileks and Ratataki are playable races, which is the only reason Vette and Kaliyo can wear it.

I actually wish they'd chosen Togruta as the new playable race, which would solve the problem easily. Kind of weird there are only about 4 unique Togruta in the game - kind of weird fighting some Ashara-clones who are 'Jedi masters' in heroics on Nar Shaada.

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MasterKayote
07.12.2012 , 01:15 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by E-Zekiel View Post
It happens when you preview for most companions. Not when you actually equip it. With inquisitors, it goes beyond just the preview.
This, its an art bug not an actual skin. That looks more like a default texture artistst use as a guide to actually paint other textures. Seen it in a few other bodies for the preview window.

And yes, Bioware is being a bunch of incompetent lazy idiots ...... surprise surprise.

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SweetNausea
07.12.2012 , 08:56 PM | #39
I like it. I'm kind of jealous I don't get a skinsuit like that as a player. One thing I miss about SWG are my suits

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Einzel
07.13.2012 , 07:20 AM | #40
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And yes, Bioware is being a bunch of incompetent lazy idiots ...... surprise surprise.
unfortunatly it's becoming true