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Can SM Denova be done in augmented war hero?


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Sickboy_
06.24.2012 , 08:09 PM | #1
Certain persons in my guild say I'm not geared enough for denova. Yet I'm in full augmented war hero with the campaign relic from the dailies. Every slot is war hero except I'm using the rakata belt and bracers as offpieces. I lose stats when I equip my rakata pieces actually(I have a full main set of rakata as well minus the head slot). So, can a dps in full augmented war hero do story mode denova?

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MaliksKid
06.24.2012 , 08:20 PM | #2
For story mode that should be fine. If you are unsure check your WH stats against Columi and see if you get the same. Since 1.2 they changed the way that stats are distributed among mods in PvP gear. BM basically used be Rakata with slightly less End + Primary and some expertise. Now you get a lot less end + primary and more expertise. The fact your gear is augmented might offset this loss or it might not, I don't PvP so I don't know the stats. When testing 1.3 on PTS we were doing Lost Island on HM with a nearly full rakata scoundrel healer and a tank in full BM/WH and the healer couldn't keep him alive against the Shaclaw boss before you get to the droid, so my feeling is no.

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Aurojiin
06.24.2012 , 08:28 PM | #3
Get everyone on Mox. Go do Denova. See how you go as a group, and where your DPS falls. That seems like a better option than trying to weigh people's varying opinions.

My opinion, though? Yes, certainly.

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HileyQuiggley
06.24.2012 , 10:02 PM | #4
I have all Orange gear on my Commando. Wrists/Belt also fully modded with at least 58's. My gear is augmented with Aim/End 22's. I reach a tid bit under 2200 Aim buffed and stimmed 75% surge 35% crit, 99.8% acc and 580 pwr. To say im not ready for a Denova run would only be an insult upon yourself. I run SWMonitor for dps and have never lost one OP in total dps or Boss fights in general.

If you where talking about still having your PvP armorings in your gear then its a bit worse. The Mod/Enhancement are great 61's but the Armorings are poor stat wise for PvE. Just swap them out for your Columni or Rakata equivilant Armorings and you shoudl be set.

I miss out on an extra 15%crit chance to my Grav round from my Rakata 2 piece set but I find myself using it less and critting just as often. Full augmented is the way to go. Also when your able to get Black Hole gear or Campaign, find the ones with the best mods and max out your augmented even more. This is better than just using that certain piece.
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Sickboy_
06.24.2012 , 10:26 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by HileyQuiggley View Post
I have all Orange gear on my Commando. Wrists/Belt also fully modded with at least 58's. My gear is augmented with Aim/End 22's. I reach a tid bit under 2200 Aim buffed and stimmed 75% surge 35% crit, 99.8% acc and 580 pwr. To say im not ready for a Denova run would only be an insult upon yourself. I run SWMonitor for dps and have never lost one OP in total dps or Boss fights in general.

If you where talking about still having your PvP armorings in your gear then its a bit worse. The Mod/Enhancement are great 61's but the Armorings are poor stat wise for PvE. Just swap them out for your Columni or Rakata equivilant Armorings and you shoudl be set.

I miss out on an extra 15%crit chance to my Grav round from my Rakata 2 piece set but I find myself using it less and critting just as often. Full augmented is the way to go. Also when your able to get Black Hole gear or Campaign, find the ones with the best mods and max out your augmented even more. This is better than just using that certain piece.
hmm thats what I was thinking. Either certain people in my guild don't know what they're talking about, or have some kind of grudge against me and don't want me to come.

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Karasuko
06.24.2012 , 11:10 PM | #6
I think you're severely overestimating your WH gear.
Theres no way that all that expertise comes at no cost to your main stat or additional green stats.

Personally I wouldnt take you either.

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MaliksKid
06.24.2012 , 11:12 PM | #7
What you have to remember though is Denova is completely different in SM than KP or EV are. Below is a comparison between WH Weaponmaster Vs. Columi Weaponmaster

WH

Armor 673
Strength 87 (105 assuming augment)
Endurance 111 (123 assuming augment)
Expertise 110 (Irrelevant)
Critical 61
Surge 53

Columi

Armor 627
Strength 93
Endurance 116
Power 53 (replace with crit)
Accuracy 48 (replace with surge)

So overall augmented warhero is better than unaugmented columi.

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Karasuko
06.24.2012 , 11:15 PM | #8
Yes WH augmented is better than columi, but better than properly itemised rakata? I highly doubt it.
Also those pvp set bonuses? once again on the whole the Pve ones tend to be better at sustained damage.

At no point has the OP said whether or not hes a dps. I wouldnt take a pvp geared tank or healer any quicker than i'd take a dps.

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MaliksKid
06.24.2012 , 11:26 PM | #9
Dunno why, I just assumed DPS lol.

Still, on my Shadow I made myself a full set of Battlemaster Force Master augmented gear and the filled it with Rakata and columi mods. You shouldn't be going to Denova really until you've at least gone through EV and KP once and picked up some Columi.

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jjmartin
06.25.2012 , 01:23 AM | #10
First Op I ever did was 16SM Denova in a mix of aug'd BM/WH.

Of course I got pulled along a bit, and wasn't running a parser so I don't know what my HPS was, but I made it.

/should add that the Campaign Mainhand (no augment) is a very small upgrade over an Augmented War Hero Mainhand....I just got mine tonight, so I'd know. I did 16HM with WH, and afterwards at the vendor realized that the Campaign weapon gave me like +24 end, +4 power, +30 crit, -8 aim, something like that. Not a huge deal in the big picture.