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Hmm...EU relaunch?


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Rahak
06.21.2012 , 11:26 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by priest View Post
I'm an old school, started with Heir to the Empire EU fan. I feel that pretty much everything NJO and after lost that (and I'm going to pull an SWG term here) Starwarsy and Iconic feel to it. I think in the haste to appeal to the new up and coming, darker, grittier science fiction fanbase, they made the story far heavier and as such it lost its innocence.

That being said, I wouldn't want a relaunch, I'd want to retconn back to pre NJO. see what you think
I think it was a needed change honestly, it's hard for the stories to maintain integrity for so long when the big four (Leia, Han, Luke, Lando) have guaranteed plot immunity.
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Captain_Zone
06.22.2012 , 02:48 AM | #12
A full relaunch is probably a bad idea. Having everything retconned out at once? Having to read all the new stuff that replaces the old stuff is not something I would look forward to, honestly.

It was bad enough when Lucas changed the OT to damn near unrecognizable. Please, for the love of The Force, don't do it to the Expanded Universe too....
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Captain_Zone
06.22.2012 , 02:49 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Rahak View Post
I think it was a needed change honestly, it's hard for the stories to maintain integrity for so long when the big four (Leia, Han, Luke, Lando) have guaranteed plot immunity.
Actually, scratch Lando off that list. Only Luke, Leia, and Han are in George's Big Three with Immortal Plot Armor.
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grandmthethird
06.22.2012 , 06:12 AM | #14
it would have some pros and some cons imo

i would hate to think i wasted all that time reading, and all that money buying the EU, just to have some1 say, scrap that we did it wrong, come buy and read it all again. also i think the writers that did do a good job would feel a little bit like they were slapped in the face to be told all their hard work was basically going in the bin.

but it would allow writers to undo some of the huge mistakes made by, (aww lets not get into that again lol). and if "the Thrawn trilogy" never happened, maybe GL might make movies 7,8,and 9
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priest
06.22.2012 , 09:35 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by grandmthethird View Post
it would have some pros and some cons imo

i would hate to think i wasted all that time reading, and all that money buying the EU, just to have some1 say, scrap that we did it wrong, come buy and read it all again. also i think the writers that did do a good job would feel a little bit like they were slapped in the face to be told all their hard work was basically going in the bin.

but it would allow writers to undo some of the huge mistakes made by, (aww lets not get into that again lol). and if "the Thrawn trilogy" never happened, maybe GL might make movies 7,8,and 9
Ok, I am getting ready to invoke what some would say blasphemy...but JJ Abrams retconned the entire Star Trek Universe with his movie release. Some may see it as bad, however I see it as fresh. It allows for the author to refresh the story, and doesn't invalidate everything before...it uses it and allows it to exist, but then an "Alternate Reality," also exists on top of it. This is Science Fiction, we should have no problem with diverging realities.
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Mistress_Ivi
06.22.2012 , 09:41 AM | #16
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I have seen the emu of swg and honestly, it is dead. There are no levels. Its the old pre-cu and everything. I found it very boring...
Off topic, but the cap was raised to 3k people and was still lining up to log on... it's anything but dead.

Lucas Arts really screwed up closing down the contract with SoE, they could have pass it to EA at least.

That aside, I seriously doubt a Re-release will benefit TOR at this point, they deserately need to improve their community relations and services - not to mention get their heads out of their person. Currently the dead servers or over-populated servers were a direction in the wrong way.

They should just concentrate on working on an expansion, be it DLC or microtransaction(sp) - along with all the service issues.
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Forgon
06.22.2012 , 10:29 AM | #17
A relaunch would be bad. I am in favor of just an organization overhaul. Every aspect and concept in Star Wars that has gone through the different levels of canon needs to be looked at and concurrently put together, much like our encyclopedia iterations we get every year or two, and put back into a single continuity. There needs to be definite answers and authors need to be given stronger filters for the universe they are working in. I am all for creative freedom, but disregarding past works in the Star Wars universe is how we got into this mess in the first place. For better or for worse, it is best if GL is the only one who can override anything and have to keep up with continuity as established by him then as established by the next wannabe author in the EU.

It is just a matter of reforming the old, not dumping it and hitting the "Start Over" button. That type of mentality shows failure to actually work with and organize problems.
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priest
06.22.2012 , 02:52 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Forgon View Post
A relaunch would be bad. I am in favor of just an organization overhaul. Every aspect and concept in Star Wars that has gone through the different levels of canon needs to be looked at and concurrently put together, much like our encyclopedia iterations we get every year or two, and put back into a single continuity. There needs to be definite answers and authors need to be given stronger filters for the universe they are working in. I am all for creative freedom, but disregarding past works in the Star Wars universe is how we got into this mess in the first place. For better or for worse, it is best if GL is the only one who can override anything and have to keep up with continuity as established by him then as established by the next wannabe author in the EU.

It is just a matter of reforming the old, not dumping it and hitting the "Start Over" button. That type of mentality shows failure to actually work with and organize problems.
Respectfully, this isn't the issue at all. The issue is not a disorganized or paradoxical canon...though some of that exists. The problem is that some of us feel like publishers, looking at a business model, have moved the canon to such a place that it isn't recognizable as Star Wars anymore. It's all heavy handed, dark, and it lacks the romance and heroic spirit that it had in the Bantam Spectra days. It's not about an organizational issue...if that was the case a good Wiki would make us all agree. It's about content...not continuity.
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