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RP-PvP "Lord Calypho" - Excluded from Transfers...

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RP-PvP "Lord Calypho" - Excluded from Transfers...
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Jerro
06.23.2012 , 04:33 PM | #651
Quote: Originally Posted by Kiyosa View Post
I can't say I particularly like it either. But I'm certain I'd have liked even less to stick on LC with 12 people on the fleet at peak times, no warzones, no flashpoints/operations or a functioning GTN.
this is the sad truth (for now atleast) but if the transfers will be available to the RP-PVE srver im there even if my guild doesnt move.

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misterME
06.23.2012 , 06:23 PM | #652
I just played for 3 hours on LC leveling my BH. I pulled up a roster, and there were all of 51 people on the entire Empire side. Still I saw other characters on a couple of planets, even had a couple of duels with an overzealous Juggernaut, who was nice enough while he ate my lunch three times in a row.

My short time on the Fleet I saw some conversations in General chat; those who are there are adamant about not xferring to ToFN. Like me, they'd rather have an abysmally low pop than an immature, griefing-prone one. All in all, it harkens back to the days on my old server when it became vacant in February. Oh well, I'd rather play alone than with the ****tards on ToFN. 59 days of playtime left on my cancelled sub; gotta have something to do.

Fix it Bioware. I know you're focused on getting 1.3 deployed successfully (don't hold your breath), but you still have a group of very disenfranchised but obviously very dedicated players hanging on on LC. Don't hang 'em out to dry...

Faith in Bioware restored June 29, 2012: See the Magic!

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Shanaris
06.23.2012 , 07:00 PM | #653
I'm waiting for a transfer to a rp server, personally. While many others refuse to pay for a transfer, I myself, wouldn't particularly mind if that's what it took, even though we've been denied what was a given for the rest of the playerbase, due to our "unique situation".

What annoys me the most is how we're left in the dark about any possibility for Lord calpho's remaining rp'ers to transfer to an rp-server. I wouldn't mind an ETA, either, because now the game is nigh unplayable.
Shanaris - Lv. 50 Sorceress
Xhanaa - Lv. 50 Juggernaught
Amely - Guardian alt
Aliya - Sniper alt

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Nimithril
06.23.2012 , 09:17 PM | #654
Quote: Originally Posted by Rogoo View Post
......./snip

Can you PvP on a PvE server ? NO.
False. Plenty of PVP on the PVE servers....just flag up and go look for like-minded people.

Now, if we can just convince people to put on their Expertise gear instead of Rak.....
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And finally, sitting through this video is like watching a 6 year old bash his own head in with a frying pan.. just not as entertaining.
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That's my new facebook status: Shut up the f$$%$% mouth!

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misterME
06.23.2012 , 10:39 PM | #655
Quote: Originally Posted by Nimithril View Post
False. Plenty of PVP on the PVE servers....just flag up and go look for like-minded people.

Now, if we can just convince people to put on their Expertise gear instead of Rak.....
Precisely. There is no difference between PVE and PVP servers, except that on a PVE server, you get to decide whether you want to participate or not. Hmmmm...Kinda seems like what all the PVPers are claiming about us, doesn't it? I just think they're just spoiled because they have the handy-dandy flag they can use to let others know if they're participating or not.

Speaking of which, BW, where's our gollderned RP flag?!

Faith in Bioware restored June 29, 2012: See the Magic!

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Tootzi_
06.24.2012 , 12:36 AM | #656
Massively multiplayer online role-playing game
Dex the Vanguard
GM of Pro Patria
Lord Calypho

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misterME
06.24.2012 , 01:38 AM | #657
Quote: Originally Posted by Tootzi_ View Post
Massively multiplayer online role-playing game
Inigo Montoya: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

Or rather, I do not think it means what Bioware thinks it means...

(Sad part is, they did at one time. )

Faith in Bioware restored June 29, 2012: See the Magic!

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Tootzi_
06.24.2012 , 02:02 AM | #658
Just saying what the focus on the MMORPG genre once was... now the focus seem to be about satisfying the ones that makes the most noise on the forums. Because of this roleplayers often tend to draw the shortest straw...

BW you had a discussion what the best option for the transfer was. The option most wanted was neglected and you came up with the solution to move us to a PVP server(!).

I really hope you sort this because I really love to play the game, but this incident has left me so frustrated and angry that I am actually considering taking a break from playing.

Hear us out! Atleast this second time...
Dex the Vanguard
GM of Pro Patria
Lord Calypho

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misterME
06.24.2012 , 03:47 AM | #659
Quote: Originally Posted by Tootzi_ View Post
Just saying what the focus on the MMORPG genre once was... now the focus seem to be about satisfying the ones that makes the most noise on the forums. Because of this roleplayers often tend to draw the shortest straw...

BW you had a discussion what the best option for the transfer was. The option most wanted was neglected and you came up with the solution to move us to a PVP server(!).

I really hope you sort this because I really love to play the game, but this incident has left me so frustrated and angry that I am actually considering taking a break from playing.

Hear us out! Atleast this second time...
I'm with you, Tootz.

If you read back through this thread, it's almost laughable. When they asked for our feedback, we basically had two camps of people: Those who asked for transfers to a PVP server, and those who asked for an option of going to either a PVP server or an RP server. (There were a few, even me at one point, asking for a merger of all 3 EU RP-PVP servers, but those posts were few and far between.) Someone at one point (can't find it now) went back and counted the "votes" and the PVP server won, mainly because the PVP server got mentioned in almost every post. We, the RP crowd, were (most of us) being fair and saying that both types of players should be accommodated. While the majority of the PVP crowd was concerned only with what they wanted. So, because we were trying to look out for them too, we were asking for the choice (which apparently Bioware was unwilling to do). And since "PVP" showed up far more in this thread because we voted for their enjoyment as well as our own, that's the way it went.

The PVP crowd would probably claim that since the majority of the server took the transfer to ToFN, that that was obviously the right decision. I would say that's crap, because a lot of people moved because they thought that ultimately they'd have no other choice. Quite a few have been back on to say just that, and how miserable they are on ToFN.

So, even the claim of "majority rules" doesn't hold up in this decision. I really do think that Bioware believes that the RP crowd aren't worth appeasing. And that's shortsighted. Who are going to be the ones to stick around for a long time? The PVP folks? No, they'll jump ship at the first new AAA MMO that comes over the horizon promising better PVP. It's the SW fans and the RP crowd that will sustain this game in the long term. Or at least it would've been, had they ever given us a reason to stay, like taking our enjoyment of the game into consideration even once...

Faith in Bioware restored June 29, 2012: See the Magic!

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zeoutsider
06.24.2012 , 06:11 AM | #660
Weekend Experiences of a Lord Calypho Refugee on Tomb of Freedon Nadd:

The most fun in PvP for me was fighting people I know, recognized and respected. Beating good players is a challenge. 50reps vs 50 imps on peak times Fleet-wise was perfectly fine for me and gave the warzones a "sweet home" feeling.
Now I am playing against hundreds of "random" people in 10s que pops (down from maybe 3-5 minutes on LC), not enjoying anything. There is no fun in farming bad people, if I wanted that, I'd have stayed with WoW.
"But rated warzones will fix that" - they won't. Bioware's design is vastly inferior to Blizzards. And if Blizzard wasn't able to make rated warzones work properly (properly as in being fun and quality), then Bioware won't - EVER.

Two instances with 250 people on both Fleets, the game just straightout lags, especially everytime you reload from coming back from a warzone. Yes, very "MMO"-esque if I have to escape on my ship all day when doing warzones.
The general chats and say chats were the first thing I had to disable immediatly. So much foreign language spam - I don't mind people going on in their native language, but when your whole chat system mixes because everyone needs to spam their native tongue.. well, no thank you.
PvE dailies take forever - not only do they lag BADLY (because the small daily instance of say Black Hole has 100+ people in it when it can handle 20 at most), the respawn timers of some of the objectives are just flatout stupid. You spend more time hunting for crates in Black Hole than you do for anything else combined. Mobs and objectives will get snatched from you permanently, and even the Heroic 4 suffers from hard lags.

Lets get on the worst part now - the names. They usually commit a lot to the atmosphere of the game you're playing. Pussyeaterz, Sexyasses, Nightmareshadows, Niightmarekillerz, a billion Anakin-variations and xyz-destroyerz everywhere - the first two days we spent laughing at those idiotic titiles+names+legacy names, but its only funny for a bit. At least one of our own LC guys went ahead and and immediatly got on the level of the names of this server, calling himself Optimuz Voldemort! Fitting indeed.

Long story short, this server makes me want to puke. It has killed any definition of fun I had, I rolled on a RP-PvP Server for a reason. I can't deal with hypercompetitive (mostly) children, I can't deal with people who write "u" instead of "you", I can't deal with the atmosphere on this server.

Open up for Progenitor, or just shut up and take my money for payed character transfer, but DO IT FAST.
Because my endurance is running out and I'm afraid I can't stay with this game any longer, no matter how much I like it.

I won't reroll, I won't forsake my valor 90 legacy, my bonuses, my money, everything I "worked" for. I just want to move to a different server. I'll pay.

/rant of a ex RP-PvP Player

-Reyes of LC
-now Rey'es on this awful new server.