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SWTOR looking at free-to-play?

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Abominant
06.14.2012 , 11:47 PM | #1
Here is an interesting article that may give us a glimpse at the future of SWTOR.

Keep in mind that absolutely nothing is confirmed in the article, but this particular quote stands out: "So we are looking at free-to-play but I canít tell you in much detail. We have to be flexible and adapt to what is going on"

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/...e-old-republic

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06.16.2012 , 07:52 AM | #2
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06.16.2012 , 07:56 AM | #3
Full article. Article that igns is based on has been retracted. Its only the free trial to lvl 15 which was announced at E3 coming in july.

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Star Wars: The Old Republic got off to a hot start when it launched, quickly gaining a million subscribers, hitting a peak of 1.7 million players but then more recently seeing a drop off to 1.3 million subscribers. It's clear that the BioWare MMO is facing increasing pressure from other MMOs and free-to-play online games, but EA is prepared to do anything to ensure that gamers enjoy being in a galaxy far, far away for a long, long time. EA labels boss Frank Gibeau recently discussed the strategy around Star Wars with GamesIndustry International.

"We're really proud of Star Wars. We're really excited about the launch. We've had tremendously positive feedback from our fans and our subscribers. You're right, it is a complex and difficult market out there on the PC because of the availability of free-to-play products like our own, like World of Tanks, League of Legends... WoW is a free download that you pay a subscription to after a period of time. We're cognizant - we see that," Gibeau told us.

Gibeau stressed that EA will continue to evaluate the business around Star Wars and implement changes as needed, so free-to-play isn't out of the question at all (indeed, BioWare recently said as much too). (This article apparently saying bioware said going f2p retracted)


"We're going to be in the business from a long term standpoint so absolutely we're going to embrace free access, free trial, ultimately some day we can move in and embrace that model. It's all a matter of timing and thinking things through. We have a great business right now and we're not looking to make any abrupt changes. We made some good announcements in terms of giving you the first few levels free, because our telemetry told us that if we can get you to around level 8 or 9, you stick with us for the long term. So really the strategy right now is about opening up the funnel at the top so we can acquire more customers who are interested in Star Wars who perhaps aren't ready to pay the full price," Gibeau continued.

"[We want to give them] an opportunity to try and it and say, 'You know, I really do like this. I'm going to make that commitment.' MMOs, obviously, are a big commitment of time and money and so giving people an opportunity to access it for free, try it, we found in our telemetry and our experiments is a really good strategy and a good tactic. We're going to do that. We also announced a... mass amount of content thats coming for the service, so we're going to be in the Star Wars business for ten years, who knows? We're still publishing Ultima Online for seventeen years. So we're definitely going to be in the Star Wars business for a long time and if the business changes in accordance with how the market is reacting, then that's just good process for us since we're trying to create the best possible service for our gamers."

We asked Gibeau if he's absolutely confident that a decade from now EA would still have people playing Star Wars: The Old Republic. He answered, "I am, actually. We're still playing Dark Age of Camelot, we're still playing Warhammer, we're still playing Ultima Online, we're still playing Runescape, we're still playing Lineage. What's beautiful about an MMO is that when you get to a certain scale it stays with the program for a long time."

Part of lasting a decade or more will obviously involve being flexible with business models. "The advent of free-to-play is certainly a change in the dynamic of the PC market. I don't think subscriptions ever go away, but when you have an IP as broad as Star Wars, we're definitely going to look at opportunities to grow that business and look at different ways of bringing customers in and serving them," Gibeau said.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...ecade-from-now
Health Warning - Thread May Contain Nuts.
First, you can continue as a subscriber, which gives you unlimited access to all game features and future Game Updates at no additional charge. http://www.swtor.com/info/news/blog/20120731

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Valkirus
06.16.2012 , 08:01 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
Full article.
I tried answering your last post, but it was locked out before I could.lol!

I would say you are lucky to have found a server with others on it who want to play when you do. Which is great.
That is not typical however for many of the players in TOR. Which is not good.
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Shingara
06.16.2012 , 08:04 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
I tried answering your last post, but it was locked out before I could.lol!

I would say you are lucky to have found a server with others on it who want to play when you do. Which is great.
That is not typical however for many of the players in TOR. Which is not good.
But did they not give FREE transfers to players who were not that lucky, are they not also bringing in group finder so those people have a more productive time online even when they have limited hours, offering you a more diverse game to play in with a neutral auction house when 1.3 comes which with the servers transfered to should offer a vibrant market to buy, sell and make a living alternative to just combat.
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Calautti
06.16.2012 , 08:13 AM | #6
Dont do it bioware, im willing to pay you to make this game good... focus on the good things. not the things the game is based on and expand. i find myself skipping the cutscenes every single time anyway. bring the creation and improve on already good systems

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06.16.2012 , 08:13 AM | #7
I hope this doesn't happen. I mostly played FTP games and have spent $40-$50 a month trying to get an edge on someone else that had better this and better that, but it never happens. FTP games are money sinks IMOP.

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Valkirus
06.16.2012 , 08:13 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
But did they not give FREE transfers to players who were not that lucky, are they not also bringing in group finder so those people have a more productive time online even when they have limited hours, offering you a more diverse game to play in with a neutral auction house when 1.3 comes which with the servers transfered to should offer a vibrant market to buy, sell and make a living alternative to just combat.
Hehe. I have seen this type of answer so many times. Basically it is the player's fault. Right? Thought so. Anyway, I am not moving and if the LFG tool does not work well on my server.. unsubbing. IF that happens, maybe one day I will come back when they get thier flaws corrected or .....go FTP..
Trust is something which is earned.

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Shingara
06.16.2012 , 08:18 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
Hehe. I have seen this type of answer so many times. Basically it is the player's fault. Right? Thought so. Anyway, I am not moving and if the LFG tool does not work well on my server.. unsubbing. IF that happens, maybe one day I will come back when they get thier flaws corrected or .....go FTP..
If you are indeed suggesting that you refuse to take help for the problems that you are facing then infact yes you are to blame for any and all results of that action. Fear is no reason to not do something, you shall lose nothing and gain alot so what is the reason you will not transfer server. The only flaw is infact your thinking on this matter as you may aswell unsub now as others on your server shall migrate to a more populated realm.
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Kourage
06.16.2012 , 08:18 AM | #10
It doesn't say they are looking to go Free to Play any more than it says they're looking to raise the price to $19.99 a month.


Free to Play is just a trial. You can bet you won't get to PvP, use the GTN, or run any end game flashpoints or operations for free. Your forum access would be limited and possibly your chat channels in the game. Free to Play is nothing but a free trial. You either spend money to buy access a la carte style, or you end up buying the game & paying a subscription because that's the cheaper way to go.
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