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Maaruin
06.15.2012 , 05:38 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Slowpokeking View Post
Because I'm work on a crossover and got confused a little bit since the empire's troopers were defeated by Ewoks in Endor.
The Ewoks were able to defeat the Empire because the Empire didn't plan it. They didn't plan to be that much overwhelmed in numbers. So if the Empire only sends one legion, an army might defeat them. If the Empire comes to conquer, the armies of the third age couldn't stand against them.

Advanced technology would make it for star wars.

But as Vader said, technology is nothing against the Force. Middle earth has Force users. All Elves can use magic/the Force to a degree (not as good as Jedi and Sith). But some are really awesome at it. Galadriel is definitly comparable to Yoda.

On the evil side we have the Nazguls who can't die from lightsabers or blasters. (Well, there could be one exception ) And we have Sauron, who is comparable to the Sith Emperor in this game.

Also I bet Mithril is lightsaber resistant (but probably more expensive then Cortosis).


Now take the whole think one step further and let the Valar go at war. Star Wars has nothing against them. Maybe Abeloth, but I doubt it. Godmode Luke Skywalker could counter them in a one on one, maybe.

Oh, and in the end: Illuvatar and the Force. Sorry, but I have to give this to Illuvater. The Force can be manipulated, he can't. The Force probably isn't a real person, he is.

(Let's keep Tom Bombadil out of this, okay?)

One word for the Death Star: It could blow up middle earth if Illuvatar or the Valar don't intervene.

So, all in all:

Army against Army: SW wins
Force users against Magic users: draw (could go one way or another)
--- against Valar: LotR, the Valar have no real counter
The Force against Illuvatar: LotR wins

You asked for arme against army, didn't you?
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Slowpokeking
06.15.2012 , 05:41 PM | #12
I don't see how Galadriel could compare to Yoda, Yoda got much better fighting technique and the use of the Force.

Or Sauron could draw with the Emperor. The Emperor can easily brainwash people, Sauron couldn't even brainwash a hobbit easily, he mostly use lies and tricks to let people work for him.

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Slowpokeking
06.15.2012 , 05:42 PM | #13
Nazguls are jokes, their leader got beaten by a hobbit and a girl.

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06.15.2012 , 05:52 PM | #14
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Nazguls are jokes, their leader got beaten by a hobbit and a girl.
The Witch-King was stabbed by an enchanted blade that weakened him severely, allowing Eowyn to make the killing blow.
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06.15.2012 , 05:55 PM | #15
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The Witch-King was stabbed by an enchanted blade that weakened him severely, allowing Eowyn to make the killing blow.
So lightsaber should also do the work. Or direct Force attacks. They can be damaged physically.

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06.15.2012 , 05:55 PM | #16
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I don't see how Galadriel could compare to Yoda, Yoda got much better fighting technique and the use of the Force.

Or Sauron could draw with the Emperor. The Emperor can easily brainwash people, Sauron couldn't even brainwash a hobbit easily, he mostly use lies and tricks to let people work for him.
Galadriel could stop time itself. I don't think Yoda can do that.

Sauron manipulated the elves( the wisest of beings) into making the rings of power so that he could take over the world with the One Ring. And He's IMMORTAL. No one in Star Wars is immortal. The Sith Emperor would have become immortal, but would become an emperor of nothing. Sauron would be the master of Middle-Earth and beyond if his campaign was successful.
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06.15.2012 , 05:56 PM | #17
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So lightsaber should also do the work. Or direct Force attacks. They can be damaged physically.
I was just telling you how it happened because you didn't seem to understand that.
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06.15.2012 , 05:58 PM | #18
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mouth of sauron
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06.15.2012 , 05:58 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
Galadriel could stop time itself. I don't think Yoda can do that.

Sauron manipulated the elves( the wisest of beings) into making the rings of power so that he could take over the world with the One Ring. And He's IMMORTAL. No one in Star Wars is immortal. The Sith Emperor would have become immortal, but would become an emperor of nothing. Sauron would be the master of Middle-Earth and beyond if his campaign was successful.
Where did it say she could do it?

Then NONE of the elves fell under his control, and he lost most of his power due to the forging of the One Ring. The elves later even used the rings against his army.

Immortal does not mean you are more powerful, just be able to live longer. Sauron couldn't do a thing after the ring was destroyed, same with Saruman.

So Sauron failed to conquer a land due to his own problem, when many Sith Lords were able to rule more than 1 planet, even the galaxy?

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Maaruin
06.15.2012 , 06:02 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Slowpokeking View Post
I don't see how Galadriel could compare to Yoda, Yoda got much better fighting technique and the use of the Force.

Or Sauron could draw with the Emperor. The Emperor can easily brainwash people, Sauron couldn't even brainwash a hobbit easily, he mostly use lies and tricks to let people work for him.
Galadriel is very powerful on a different level. Yes, in sword fighting she is not as powerful as Yoda, but she destroyed the fortress Dol Guldur on her own. She created and kept Lothlorien. Also her foresight is far superior to Yoda's. You may look up her powers.

Okay, the Emperor is superior in Brainwashing people. Sauron is superior in tricks and lies. The Emperor might be a little more powerful than Sauron, but not much. Both are immortal, even if you kill them. Oh, and Sauron is probably the better fighter. The Emperor doesn't seem incredibly skilled with the lightsaber.

Edit: The rings can brainwash. Of course not as fast and as irresistable as the Emperor.

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Nazguls are jokes, their leader got beaten by a hobbit and a girl.
In SWTOR

Spoiler


If you have read the book you know that the Nazgul are everything but a joke. They are basically unkillable Dread Masters. You could of course use some force techniques to contain them, if you get enough powerful Sith/Jedi.

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So Sauron failed to conquer a land due to his own problem, when many Sith Lords were able to rule more than 1 planet, even the galaxy?
I know only about one occasion where the Sith faced as much opposition as Sauron: on Ruusan. The Sith failed there because of their own problems.

Of course Star Wars leaders in general have more resources (ships, troops, weapons) than LotR leaders.
"I was one of many. We were servants of the dark side… Sith Lords, we called ourselves. So proud. In the end we were not so proud. We hid… hid from those we had betrayed. We fell… and I knew it would be so."
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