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Same gender relationships clarifications?

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Same gender relationships clarifications?
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Kioma
08.01.2012 , 06:10 PM | #591
Quote: Originally Posted by MusedMoose View Post
Still gets a giant NO NO NO from me.
Yep. A huge, bulging, throbbing, pulsating, turgid NOPE.
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chuixupu
08.01.2012 , 06:18 PM | #592
The thought of paying for any romantic interludes is kind of funny, though...you're in the middle of a conversation, you get a flirt option, then suddenly a little window pops up: "Would you like to continue this conversation? 5 Cartel Coins to continue flirting with this character!"

Now if I could get more than a fade to black cut scene....
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MusedMoose
08.01.2012 , 06:55 PM | #593
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The thought of paying for any romantic interludes is kind of funny, though...you're in the middle of a conversation, you get a flirt option, then suddenly a little window pops up: "Would you like to continue this conversation? 5 Cartel Coins to continue flirting with this character!"

Now if I could get more than a fade to black cut scene....
Okay, in practice, that would be awful, but in theory, that's hilarious. Especially if they got the characters themselves in on the action. I can just see Kaliyo now...

"You smell like sweat and plasma burns. I like it. Ten cartel coins and I'll show you how much I like it. Deal?"

Another game I play did an April Fool's joke about adding paid-for content. When confronted with two girls telling you to choose between them, saying you couldn't decide was free, picking either one of them had a different charge, and asking if they could share you had the highest charge. I laughed so hard at that.

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Captain_Zone
08.01.2012 , 07:04 PM | #594
Quote: Originally Posted by Kioma View Post
Yep. A huge, bulging, throbbing, pulsating, turgid NOPE.
I LOL'd.
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wainot-keel
08.01.2012 , 09:15 PM | #595
Quote: Originally Posted by Zandilar View Post
Sexuality influences a person in ways that most of us just don't think about or even realize. This is not a bad thing at all, it's simply a part of being human. "PCsexual" characters are unrealistic because their sexuality, which doesn't actually exist except in reflection of the PC, has no influence on them whatsoever at any point in their lives, except in their relationship with the PC. (Keep in mind I am talking about the PCsexual character, not the truly bisexual character.)
There are lot of things that defines a person's identity, a lot of diffrent things that shapes the way people interact and react with others. For example, your early childhood, where and how was growing up, that kinda stuff has a big impact in a person's life. And usually none of that is covered, at all, in a companion's characterization. How come the lack of that doesn't make them "unrealistic" too ? At least, I don't see anyone pointing them out as a flaw.



Quote: Originally Posted by Zandilar View Post

I'll try the example thing -

Straight Kira meets a young bisexual woman early in her life, she and the woman become friends. The woman has a crush on Kira, Kira is flattered or not, but rejects her advances either way. Later on she meets bisexual/lesbian JK, gets all shy or defensive or whatever depending on the nature of the former relationship, eventually gets over that and is able to gently tease the JK about it.


Well, this is what headcanon is for, actually. Most of the companion's interactions with the PC don't have a in-game explanation. This kind detailed stuff may work for you, but for others, might feel way too contrived or even off. A gently tease dialog/scene could be there as part of the small story between the Kira and the JK. How it gets to happen, why Kira gets to be comfortable enough to do it, up to the player to come up with. You fill the blanks the best it suits your own game.
Many things are unknown. Is it explained why would Kira follow and may fall in love with a mega-uber-douche ? Don't you think that should be properly covered as part of her personality ? Why Vette gets to marry a sadistical mass murderer ? I once read on these forums "Stockholm syndrome". Ok, cool, if that works for you, awesome. But if that kind of stuff is put in-game, as part of characterization to make them interact with a certain PC, that would be bad.


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I personally have no issues with either 'PCSexual" characters or ones that have more defined sexualities in game (Kaliyo)...I can't agree with the blanket statement that "PCSexual" is just bad writing no matter what.
Pretty much this.
Though given the amount of different PCs and companions, I would prefer all LIs to be available for both genders. That would give more choices for everybody. Sadly, I don't think it's going to happen.

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Kioma
08.01.2012 , 09:35 PM | #596
Quote: Originally Posted by wainot-keel View Post
Though given the amount of different PCs and companions, I would prefer all LIs to be available for both genders. That would give more choices for everybody. Sadly, I don't think it's going to happen.
Well, they've said outright it's not going to happen thusly.
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Syvach
08.01.2012 , 09:42 PM | #597
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A stands for Arcs, as in story arcs.
Aaah, that makes some sense. Thank you.

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MusedMoose
08.01.2012 , 09:54 PM | #598
Quote: Originally Posted by Kioma View Post
Well, they've said outright it's not going to happen thusly.
If I'm understanding you right, that's not really true. BioWare has said nothing about who will be available for SGRs, so it's entirely possible all the current love interests will be SGR-capable. Just about the only thing they've said outright is that SGRs are coming.

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Kioma
08.01.2012 , 10:10 PM | #599
Quote: Originally Posted by MusedMoose View Post
If I'm understanding you right, that's not really true. BioWare has said nothing about who will be available for SGRs, so it's entirely possible all the current love interests will be SGR-capable. Just about the only thing they've said outright is that SGRs are coming.

If I'm not understanding you right, I apologize and blame sleep dep.
No, I mean all LI companions being open to all genders. They've said they won't do it. That's what all the 'that's not writing, that's not good storytelling' stuff was about at the Summit. They know which companions will be SGRA-capable and they're not saying which but they're NOT going to make all of them available to everyone. I mean, throw whatever interpretations on those words you like, as far as I understood it there's not going to be 'hero-sexual' companions. That was one of the only aspects of the whole SGRA issue that they answered directly in absolutes, as far as I'm concerned.
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Zandilar
08.01.2012 , 11:26 PM | #600
Okay, some of you have made some really good points, so I'm going to stop now while I reformulate my opinion on what constitutes good writing in a computer game romance.

However, the one position I'll never move away from is that using exactly the same writing for both genders is bad (or more accurately, lazy) writing. You will never convince me of that, I'm sorry.
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