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Same gender relationships clarifications?

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Same gender relationships clarifications?
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Rayla_Felana
06.10.2012 , 07:59 PM | #31
And no comments for DS Jaesa? I am appalled. lol

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Zandilar
06.10.2012 , 08:04 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayla_Felana View Post
^Assumes they have to pay contracted voice actors anything more than they already do whatsoever or that EA would have to spend anything, they don't, they have already bought all they'll ever need, only thing that is still paid for is the servers and the wages of the dev team.
Actually, they've probably had to pay a retainer fee to the voice actors (or agents acting on their behalf), not their full wages for work yet to be done. If EA dropped the project entirely and shut down their servers tomorrow, they'd probably have to pay out the contract. That figure might be pretty high, but (probably) wouldn't be anywhere near the total cost of paying a voice actor a regular gig for say, 10 years (or however long the contract is for).

The contract probably works like this - we agree to pay you a fee to retain your services each year, because we will probably want you back in the studio at some point(s), for some period(s), over so many years. This contract binds you to show up to work when we ask, with a bit of flexibility built in to accommodate other work you'll be doing, because what we're paying you is probably not enough to live on, given the work is probably not enough to constitute full time. We reserve the right to terminate this contract with a period of time notice, and will pay you the remainder of the retainer fee for the year in which we terminate the contract. You also have the right to terminate the contract with notice, with some small penalty, such as forgoing the remaining retainer fee for the rest of the year.

Of course, there are probably a lot more terms and conditions involved, and it's probably far better and tightly worded than I've written it. (Oh dear, guess who has a Contract Law exam tomorrow...)
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MusedMoose
06.10.2012 , 08:10 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by Scotwest View Post
Personally, I think it's worth the cost -- much more than whatever they're budgeting to increase the level cap. Hard core players will burn through the new levels pretty quickly and then likely start complaining about a lack of high level content again, but people who are interested in SGRs will reroll a class (even if they already have a level 50 and have completed the class storyline) and play the whole thing all over again from level 1 simply in order to experience that element. At any rate, I know I will.

But we should acknowledge that this does represent an additional expense at a time of corporate belt-tightening -- especially at BW -- and hope the fact that this subject has exceeded the thread capacity so often will remind them how important this feature is to a large percentage of their most enthusiastic customers.
Regardless of what the costs are - or any contract issues, which I know nothing about - Mr. Erickson's bit at the guild summit showed that BW knows this is something their fans want, something that's important to them. And I think you've got it right about the different types of players. I mean, how many times have we seen people in here say they're willing to reroll if they can't get the SGR they want with their character at the level they're at now? My JK's been at 24 since, like, January, and I'm more than willing to invest the time to re-level her if it means I can play through the early stuff with Kira and flirt with her.
Quote: Originally Posted by stuffystuffs View Post
Mine: Kaliyo, Kira, Risha

LOL, we don't have much in common except for Kira...but everyone wants her (it's true! No one argue with me XD)
Hah! The ones I named are the ones I want the most, because they're for the classes I'm playing as female characters. My male IA is pursuing Kaliyo, and my male Smuggler went with Akaavi over Risha. But I plan to play those classes again with female characters (and the other advanced class), so I'm all for SGRs with those female companions too. The female Smuggler I have planned, full credit-hearted scoundrel, would be perfect with Risha.

And yeah, I've never seen anyone say they don't like Kira. I'm sure there are people who don't like her, but I've never seen them.
Quote: Originally Posted by Zandilar View Post
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Of course, there are probably a lot more terms and conditions involved, and it's probably far better and tightly worded than I've written it. (Oh dear, guess who has a Contract Law exam tomorrow...)
What you've said makes a ton of sense. I've always figured BioWare had something in their contracts to make sure a VA was available for their characters, and more importantly, that the VA would keep playing those characters. Fans would flip if someone's voice suddenly changed.

And good luck on your exam tomorrow.

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Scotwest
06.10.2012 , 08:14 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayla_Felana View Post
Actually BioWare themselves have stated long ago that they have all the important voice actors on their beck and call, for whenever they need, they have all of them on contract, much like they do with the majority of their franchises.
We're talking about two separate things -- availability and compensation. I'm sure the actors' contracts have options BioWare can exercise allowing them to record additional content -- in fact, it would have been astonishingly short-sighted if they hadn't given themselves the option of bringing the actors back for future sessions -- but the company would still have to pay the performers for their time -- as well as hire the recording studio, pay the engineer(s), the craft service guy, the sound editors, the directors (although the latter two might be BW employees). Unless they actually paid all the actors in advance for future sessions that might or might not ever occur, which would be, to say the least, a departure from industry standard.

Just as a point of order, voice actors who don't work on TV series are free agents -- they aren't at anyone's beck and call. Yes, BW can call , say, Timothy Omundson's agent and say they'd like to schedule him for such and such time on the 15th, but they can't say, "Be here at 9AM tomorrow or you're fired!)

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MusedMoose
06.10.2012 , 09:22 PM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by Scotwest View Post
We're talking about two separate things -- availability and compensation. I'm sure the actors' contracts have options BioWare can exercise allowing them to record additional content -- in fact, it would have been astonishingly short-sighted if they hadn't given themselves the option of bringing the actors back for future sessions -- but the company would still have to pay the performers for their time -- as well as hire the recording studio, pay the engineer(s), the craft service guy, the sound editors, the directors (although the latter two might be BW employees). Unless they actually paid all the actors in advance for future sessions that might or might not ever occur, which would be, to say the least, a departure from industry standard.
The studio thing might not be too much of an issue. I've heard radio interviews with people working in VA studios, and it sounded like they were right in the room with the radio guys, so the VAs might not even have to be anywhere near BioWare. And it wouldn't surprise me if BioWare had some pretty impressive audio recording/editing/what-have-you right in their workplace, so they don't have to mess with hiring a studio and so forth. As much voice acting as their games entail, I'm sure they've worked out the best way to handle it by now.

And this bit of discussion has gone fully off-topic, so please, let's set it aside. Thank you.

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Lefrogg
06.10.2012 , 11:31 PM | #36
Anyone know if there are any gay guilds to join (wrong thread, found where I should have posted) . Sorry.

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Nagadeath
06.10.2012 , 11:52 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayla_Felana View Post
Back in the day, the SGRA threads would cap six times a day, never mind six times in total, those were the days, shame so many have left.
some of us from those old threads are still here. i just don't post very much right now but i have been reading this thread every day.

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Raiellyn
06.11.2012 , 01:40 AM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Nagadeath View Post
some of us from those old threads are still here. i just don't post very much right now but i have been reading this thread every day.
I get the feeling that a lot of former-regulars are still following closely, even if they aren't partaking in the discussion directly.

P.S., I am still holding Blizz ransom in exchange for SGR-Elara. BioWare, you have my demands.

P.P.S., someone please get Blizz to stop making cool gadgets out of my toaster-oven.
Because I'm the hero this forum deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So they'll insult me, because I can take it. Because I'm not their hero. I'm a vocal critic, a watchful commenter. A Snark Knight.

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Evil_Jashinist
06.11.2012 , 04:55 AM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Raiellyn View Post
P.S., I am still holding Blizz ransom in exchange for SGR-Elara. BioWare, you have my demands.

P.P.S., someone please get Blizz to stop making cool gadgets out of my toaster-oven.
I doubt that's possible, you'd have to find him something else to do then xD You could try giving him a toolshed, should keep him busy for awhile.

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JediElf
06.11.2012 , 08:39 AM | #40
Yay a new thread!

*stretches out on the new threads couch*

Waitn' on SGRA.

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