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Twin Spears!!! The server to transfer.

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PoortKnyght
06.08.2012 , 05:27 PM | #11
Well as much as I hate to say it. I won't be transferring from this server and if my server ends up even more dead because they did server transfers wrong. Then that will be the reason I stop playing. I love this game and I've waited patiently for them to address the population issues, but if they are going to do nothing but put everyone on a few servers (granted, maybe more than a few). Then that's pretty much BW saying, "F*** you, you should've re-rolled and not been patient".

The best policy would be to transfer from a Heavy server to a Light and made it Standard, then move to another Light server and do the same there. Until most, if not all, servers have a decent population on them. Not have everyone move to a Heavy and then when those get to crowded, force players to move to servers that are still Light. It would put us in the same exact position that we are in now. When WoW and SWG both had very similar population issues, they only allowed transfers from the high pop servers to the low servers. They waited at least 2-3 months before they'd even allow paid transfers. And yes, WoW had a much more unstable launch and had the same exact population problem that swtor is having now. So based on that, swtor on track to being a much better game.

I hope BW is reading these and figures out that they need to tell us more info about which servers are being transferred and so on. Because I'd like to know before my next subscription bill is due, if I'm going to cancel or not. At least if they gave us the info, we wouldn't be here arguing over who's right and so on. I still feel very confident that they will be only doing transfers from Heavy to Light and so on. There's no other logical explanation.

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uaintjak
06.08.2012 , 05:45 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by PoortKnyght View Post
The best policy would be to transfer from a Heavy server to a Light and made it Standard, then move to another Light server and do the same there. Until most, if not all, servers have a decent population on them. Not have everyone move to a Heavy and then when those get to crowded, force players to move to servers that are still Light. It would put us in the same exact position that we are in now. When WoW and SWG both had very similar population issues, they only allowed transfers from the high pop servers to the low servers.
No, in fact, that would be the absolute worst thing they could do. Moving people OFF the half-dozen or so relatively healthy servers? Why, to make them light too? Those half-dozen servers don't have enough population themselves to help repopulate the dead servers. I'm sorry that you're convinced that that's how it's going to happen, but it's not.

"In some cases, a large number of origin servers will be eligible to move to a single destination server. In others, very few origin servers will be transferring to existing high population destination servers. Remember, the goal here is to push almost every destination server to an active population that's higher."
That's a quote directly from the dev blog.

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Caspian_Rho
06.08.2012 , 05:48 PM | #13
Why do people insist on lumbering everyone with their ****** choices... Every thread I see recommending a transfer to XXX server, I know which to avoid... if I resub
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_Zorth_
06.08.2012 , 06:08 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by PoortKnyght View Post
Well as much as I hate to say it. I won't be transferring from this server and if my server ends up even more dead because they did server transfers wrong.


ehmm.. why wouldn't you want to transfer to a more populated server?

Then that will be the reason I stop playing. I love this game and I've waited patiently for them to address the population issues, but if they are going to do nothing but put everyone on a few servers (granted, maybe more than a few). Then that's pretty much BW saying, "F*** you, you should've re-rolled and not been patient".


No it isn't..
What's the difference if this game has 10 servers or 10.000??
What exactly is it you want them to do?

The best policy would be to transfer from a Heavy server to a Light and made it Standard, then move to another Light server and do the same there. Until most, if not all, servers have a decent population on them.


That's not mathematically possible because there are less than 400k active subscribers for this game and there are little more than 200 servers. That gives you about 1000 people per faction, all together..

That's not even near to make all the servers "Standard".. It's better to have 10.000 people per faction and have less servers. It's better to have a few healthy servers than loads of dying ones..

Not have everyone move to a Heavy and then when those get to crowded, force players to move to servers that are still Light. It would put us in the same exact position that we are in now.


No we wouldn't because the game wouldn't be dying..
There would also not be any queue times because they have doubled the amount of people a server can withstand since launch..

When WoW and SWG both had very similar population issues, they only allowed transfers from the high pop servers to the low servers.

The problem there was a fast growing community.. SWTOR has a fast DYING community. There are people quitting their subs everyday, So it's logical to to the opposite.. Move from Light to Standard..

They waited at least 2-3 months before they'd even allow paid transfers. And yes, WoW had a much more unstable launch and had the same exact population problem that swtor is having now. So based on that, swtor on track to being a much better game.


Nobody said anything about paid transfers..


I hope BW is reading these and figures out that they need to tell us more info about which servers are being transferred and so on. Because I'd like to know before my next subscription bill is due, if I'm going to cancel or not. At least if they gave us the info, we wouldn't be here arguing over who's right and so on. I still feel very confident that they will be only doing transfers from Heavy to Light and so on. There's no other logical explanation.
Your post makes no sense at all..

You are gonna unsub because there will be 20 healthy servers?

Makes no sense at all to do transfers from Heavy to light because it just makes i troublesome with the vast amount of chars to transfer, not to mention it wouldn't solve anything because there isn't enough ppl playing this game to make every server opened healthy. You'd need to close half of them to have a standard pop spread across the game, then close another half of that and you have a healthy pop.
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Amorl
06.08.2012 , 06:41 PM | #15
I'm on twin spears have been since early access. It was a great server and had some really epic moments but it is a dead server. think of this as basically a do it yourself server merge. Everyone on Twin spears and probably other servers will transfer to 1 destination server. Eventually they will close TS, because hopefully our new server will have everyone on it and nobody will get left behind.

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PoortKnyght
06.08.2012 , 07:02 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Caspian_Rho View Post
Why do people insist on lumbering everyone with their ****** choices... Every thread I see recommending a transfer to XXX server, I know which to avoid... if I resub
This was supposed to just be a thread stating that we have a great community on our server and we invite everyone to come join us on it.

It was meant to be helpful to both our server and others looking for a server to come to until we had these trolls on here ripping everything apart here. It was never meant to discuss the details of transfers or the such, just inviting people to join us if they have the option. My posts do make sense, it's the trolls that make no sense at all here. Until BW posts the exact details, stop trolling on this thread; as it was only an invitation. Not a discussion.

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Angorak
06.08.2012 , 07:06 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by PoortKnyght View Post
Have you two taken a look at the latest Dev post about sever transfers? http://www.swtor.com/blog/character-...ations-and-you. The way it will be is they'll only offer transfers from the Heavy servers to the Light servers. To quote the Dev post, "Players who are anxious to ensure they end up on a heavily populated server will naturally flock to what is perceived as the 'biggest' server, potentially over-populating that server. This eventually leads to the exact situation we're trying to move away from". So that means it will basically be like every other game that has done server transfers in order to save server population. I'm not trying to start an argument here, just with what the Dev post came across to me and everyone else I'd been talking to about server transfers to. Also, if you're going to comment back on this, please don't turn this into a troll or flame fest. As I am only doing this to make the game more enjoyable for a lot of people. I'm sure a lot of you can understand that. And as far as worrying about people leaving our server when transfers come. I'd been talking to both Rep and Imp players about what we need to do and what everyone's plans are and everyone who's stayed so far, all say they're not leaving. Mainly due to have legacy lvls around 30-40 and not wanted to just leave that and others just plain don't want to move period. So even if some people leave our server. I know our core players will still be playing on our server. If no one transfers to our server after a while, then we'll decided if we'll switch.

I also found another thread that has collected a lot of info on character transfers. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=474209. It basically has good and bad info in it. Origin servers (most likely will be Heavy) can only transfer to selected servers (Light) for a while at first. So it looks like you won't have much choice on where to go. But I'd still like to say that if Twin Spears is an option to transfer to, then come on over!

Explain why anyone on a healthy pop server would want to transfer to an underpopulated.
Sorry the statement you quoted in no way implies that it will be the few, very few high pop servers that will be asked to thin thier pops to bolster sparse servers. All it says is that it is unlikely that those high pop servers will be the destination server. In all likelyhood they will select those sparse pop servers to transfer to one of the ones that reaches only "standard" levels during primetime hours. But we are talking about BW so who really knows?

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uaintjak
06.08.2012 , 07:10 PM | #18
You mean the trolls who are pointing out that your invitation (and be honest, your thread was much more than an invitation, you attempted to explain the process and how it will be done) is predicated on false assumptions, out-of-context quotes, and just plain misinformation? The trolls who are trying to explain to you why server transfers will not work the way you think they'll work? Those trolls?

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PoortKnyght
06.08.2012 , 07:15 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by uaintjak View Post
You mean the trolls who are pointing out that your invitation (and be honest, your thread was much more than an invitation, you attempted to explain the process and how it will be done) is predicated on false assumptions, out-of-context quotes, and just plain misinformation? The trolls who are trying to explain to you why server transfers will not work the way you think they'll work? Those trolls?
Read the first post again, in no way did I even try to make a prediction on how it would work. That wasn't until after the trolls got on here, and yes.. trolls, ripping it apart. It was never meant to describe how it would be done, only that we invited others to join our server!!

Now obviously, none of us know how it's going to happen. So how can anyone be telling me how it's going to happen, when no one but the Devs know how it's going to happen? You can guess all you want, but no one here knows how it's going to happen. And when I attempted to give my opinion on how it would work, since no one but the Devs know, the trolls got on here saying they know exactly how it's gonna happen. When they are only guessing.

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Caspian_Rho
06.09.2012 , 02:38 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by PoortKnyght View Post
This was supposed to just be a thread stating that we have a great community on our server and we invite everyone to come join us on it.

It was meant to be helpful to both our server and others looking for a server to come to until we had these trolls on here ripping everything apart here. It was never meant to discuss the details of transfers or the such, just inviting people to join us if they have the option. My posts do make sense, it's the trolls that make no sense at all here. Until BW posts the exact details, stop trolling on this thread; as it was only an invitation. Not a discussion.
An opinion that you do not agree with is not trolling. And nothing was directed at you specificly... if you have a good community why do you need to ask people to join??? ... because the opposite is true or you wouldn't need to 'suggest'.
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