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Character Transfer, Server Populations and You

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Character Transfer, Server Populations and You
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skepticck
06.06.2012 , 02:31 PM | #291
Quote: Originally Posted by JovethGonzalez View Post

In order to ensure an optimal playing experience for every server, we’ll be offering direct transfers from one origin server to a pre-selected destination server. This means that the destination server will already be selected for the origin server.
So if i understand this correctly, each origin server can only transfer to ONE pre-selected destination server, so you can't really select where you want to transfer, the destination server is already pre-selected depending on your origin server.

Am i right about this or am i understanding it wrong ?

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Boredmuse
06.06.2012 , 02:31 PM | #292
Quote: Originally Posted by tloops View Post
lol...i think you would be happy that you are able to move to a high pop server...if you had played any other MMO it is done the same way when transfers/mergers happen. why is this a surprise to everyone?

You really think its fair that a lvl 50 legacy can lose their name to a lvl 1 legacy? That isn't being handled poorly? How is the kool aid?

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cipher_nemo
06.06.2012 , 02:31 PM | #293
Quote: Originally Posted by JovethGonzalez View Post
In order to ensure an optimal playing experience for every server, we’ll be offering direct transfers from one origin server to a pre-selected destination server. This means that the destination server will already be selected for the origin server. As mentioned in our blog post, all server types and languages will be respected. You will not find your PvE characters transferred to a PvP server, or vice versa.

Therefore, all guild members on the origin server will be eligible to transfer to the same destination server, ensuring that the guild has the opportunity to stay together.

As we mentioned in our blog, the character transfer service will be made available gradually, starting with a small number of origin servers and adding more until all servers eligible for transfer are available in the service. We know everyone is excited for the opportunity to transfer their characters, but it is critical that we do this gradually to ensure both a smooth transfer as well as a great player experience on the destination servers.

Eligible servers will be listed as they become available for transfers at www.swtor.com/transfer, which will go live on Tuesday. This is to prevent potential server load issues.

Free character transfers between selected servers will remain available for as long as it is needed to help balance server populations naturally. Please note that we will not be dividing the population of an origin server onto multiple destination servers for this free character transfer process.

We hope that this clarifies any confusion. [/color]
That doesn't address A LOT of the questions and concerns that were shared throughout this thread.

What about duplicate guild names?
Guild names, guild banks, guild ranks, guild permissions, will all that be transferred in tact?
What about duplicate legacy and character names? Who gets to keep what?
And can we get a run-down of what legacies/characters in our guild will be forced to rename if we opt to move?
What about pre-launch servers who were here first? Are they destination servers? If not, why?
What about guild members who have characters on other servers, waiting to be transferred to our server?
All of the people who rolled another character on another server because of the low pop issue, what do they do?
Will we have any idea of projected server pop size and the differences of staying put vs. moving?
IOW, will this just be from one low pop server to a slightly bigger, but still low pop server?
What about solving the low server pop problem by thinking outside the paradigm?
What about a cross-server LFG tool for instanced content, including ops, flashpoints, and even PvP?

Honestly, this just feels like another bandaid attempting to cover a wound that's been hemorrhaging subscribers ever since 1.1.4, 1.1.5, and 1.2.

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Reryn
06.06.2012 , 02:33 PM | #294
Quote: Originally Posted by Gaje View Post
Im seriously pissed we cannot move from PVP to PVE, seriously

I wanted to move my character that i have spend 6 months investing time in to play with a group of friends, now i cannot

Only option left to me is start again

Thanks Bioware
If you wanted to play on a PvE server you should have rolled on a PvE server. That is YOUR fault, not BW's. Sorry but there is no passing the buck for YOU rolling on a server type you didn't want to play on.
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Walking-Carpet
06.06.2012 , 02:33 PM | #295
Quote: Originally Posted by OmegaMayhem View Post
Server merges would FORCE people to move.

Let's say I am on a medium or low pop server... but I like it. Then BW comes along and says 'hey, we are merging your server with another one. Unfortunately, your names have already been taken and you have to change them, along with your guild name. You have no choice in this matter.'

My response... /unsub.
Same here. I much prefer BW using transfers rather than using server mergers. With transfers, I have a choice; with server mergers, I wouldn't.

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JovethGonzalez
06.06.2012 , 02:33 PM | #296 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  
Quote: Originally Posted by skepticck View Post
So if i understand this correctly, each origin server can only transfer to ONE pre-selected destination server, so you can't really select where you want to transfer, the destination server is already pre-selected depending on your origin server.

Am i right about this or am i understanding it wrong ?
This is correct for the free character transfer service.

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bawker
06.06.2012 , 02:33 PM | #297
Quote: Originally Posted by skepticck View Post
So if i understand this correctly, each origin server can only transfer to one pre-selected destination server, so you can't really select where you want to transfer, the destination server is already pre-selected depending on your origin server.

Am i right about this or am i understanding it wrong ?
Well, if that's the case (and upon re-reading this now that I have some time, this seems to be what it means), then I guess I can kiss all my Firaxan Shark characters goodbye, since I know Lord Adraas won't be a destination server.

Lame.

I suppose I'll be able to move them in the future . . . and have to pay to do so. No thanks, guys.

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StefanInter
06.06.2012 , 02:33 PM | #298
Quote: Originally Posted by tloops View Post
read the dev post above... you can all move to the same server and reform.
I did read it. You still have to reform and you still have to get all members to move. Takes more organising then if you can transfer as a guild.
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dipstik
06.06.2012 , 02:34 PM | #299
Quote: Originally Posted by Jimer_Lins View Post
Having to reform guilds and potentially losing your name is going to be a gamebreaker for many.
agreed. i was hoping that they woud,l open all new servers to populate and have a fair system for guild names, character names and legacy names.

if we get to choose from a list of destination servers, then we will prolly be stuck with low pop servers, sicne we can prolly put us east on one server and be okay (yes i think that many people have left) etc.
it woujld be nice to be able to check for a server that doesnt have an active character with your name on it so u can keep your name (since you are paying and they are not). this is certainkly true of legacy and guild names as well.

i know nothing is perfect or fair, but you dont need to be a programmer to design a system to implement, and unfortunatly, they were prolly thinking of how to make this easy to code as opposed to how to not screw over soem of their most loyal players.

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ELEE
06.06.2012 , 02:35 PM | #300
Quote: Originally Posted by AntTHFD View Post
Hey Devs-

If 1.3 is focused around Group play, why the hell are you making it hard to move a GUILD, the only GROUPS some of us have been relying on for the past few months? I'm still holding on to a thin shred of hope that my server is targeted as a destination, because this seems like a bit much of a burden to shift onto your playerbase to rectify your post-launch kneejerk reaction to open way too many servers. Great option for you unguilded folks, but guilds are getting the shaft here.
I would have to agree. Making the process difficult for guilds seems very odd in a game that really needs improvements to guild systems in the first place. My second concern is that with all the focus on Legacy, and the connection you have between all your characters.... will there be a "Transfer Legacy" (All your characters) option? Would seem silly to undo all that by only allowing one/some of your characters to transfer if you wanted to. For many, not being able to take all your characters, and transfer with your guild will be a deal breaker.