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Cathar as a Playable Species

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Cathar as a Playable Species

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TangledDruid
09.22.2012 , 11:35 AM | #211
Quote: Originally Posted by Kilikaa View Post
Saying there are no cats in Star Wars is being very short-sighted and narrowminded. Comics DO count as canon, making Cathar canon. Are canine races not Star Warsy? What about the Bothans? They are a canine race. Why can't there be a feline race as well? There are so many types of aliens in the SW universe that you would be a fool to believe that cat-people wouldn't exist. Look at all the lizard and insectoid type races there are.

You may hate the idea of Cathar but many others love and want them. You may not want to believe it, but Cathar are canon and part of the Galaxy far, far away. Accept and deal with it.
My problem with "Cat People" in star wars is that it is a cheap knock off - not an original idea.
It makes the universe look like a Manga Comic, or a bad 80's children's show.
Cats are not alien... they are cats.

Saying Bothans are dogs is.. well I can't even argue with that , I suppose if you think they look like dogs, then they are dogs for you.


*edit* Maybe we will get lucky and we can force other characters helmets on for our own display so we wont notice

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Wolfninjajedi
09.22.2012 , 11:45 AM | #212
Quote: Originally Posted by TangledDruid View Post
My problem with "Cat People" in star wars is that it is a cheap knock off - not an original idea.
It makes the universe look like a Manga Comic, or a bad 80's children's show.
Cats are not alien... they are cats.

Saying Bothans are dogs is.. well I can't even argue with that , I suppose if you think they look like dogs, then they are dogs for you.


*edit* Maybe we will get lucky and we can force other characters helmets on for our own display so we wont notice
Lizards aren't aliens either, yet we have Trandoshans. Wolves are not aliens, but we have Shistavanens, Fish aren't aliens but we have Mon Calamari. So why are Cats bad?
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ScarletBlaze
09.22.2012 , 11:50 AM | #213
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TangledDruid
09.22.2012 , 12:08 PM | #214
Quote: Originally Posted by ScarletBlaze View Post
Oh I know who put them in star wars. They deserve a special "I'm a terrible hack who rides success's coattails" award.
Which I suppose, Is where my frustration comes from, not specifically that they are coming to the mmo. I find some of the expanded universe quite interesting and well written.

The post previous to yours has a valid point regarding the other species.
I'm not railing on the forums hoping for some high level at EA/BW is going to go "oh noes we made a terrible mistake with cat people"

Personally, I hope that it is not too terribly popular. If I start getting gfinder pugs everyday with Panthro and Lion-o, I will probably just start logging in less.

Might be my age, might just be that I exposed myself to a large amount of literature when I was younger and see patterns that the average consumer doesn't.

Linking a Star Wars Wiki like it is word from on high is just sad, and makes me lose just a little more hope for the human race.

I just want to rage out my tiny opinion in a public place so I can feel a bit better.
I'm going to unsub from the thread now, I don't really have an interest in a flame war, I was just hoping I'd find a voice that agreed with me.

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chuixupu
09.22.2012 , 12:35 PM | #215
There is a species called the Mon Calamari and people are complaining about Cathar?
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Captain_Zone
09.22.2012 , 12:36 PM | #216
Quote: Originally Posted by TangledDruid View Post
Oh I know who put them in star wars. They deserve a special "I'm a terrible hack who rides success's coattails" award.
Which I suppose, Is where my frustration comes from, not specifically that they are coming to the mmo. I find some of the expanded universe quite interesting and well written.

The post previous to yours has a valid point regarding the other species.
I'm not railing on the forums hoping for some high level at EA/BW is going to go "oh noes we made a terrible mistake with cat people"

Personally, I hope that it is not too terribly popular. If I start getting gfinder pugs everyday with Panthro and Lion-o, I will probably just start logging in less.

Might be my age, might just be that I exposed myself to a large amount of literature when I was younger and see patterns that the average consumer doesn't.

Linking a Star Wars Wiki like it is word from on high is just sad, and makes me lose just a little more hope for the human race.

I just want to rage out my tiny opinion in a public place so I can feel a bit better.
I'm going to unsub from the thread now, I don't really have an interest in a flame war, I was just hoping I'd find a voice that agreed with me.
So George Lucas is a hack, then? Well, yes actually he is. He might not have invented Cathar, but he invented Shistavanens, Trandoshans, and Mon Calamari. Since your problem seems to be with aliens that mimick animals, your point is hearby dismissed as a double standard. Now, my question for you is this: Why do you even play Star Wars with all the animal mimicking aliens in it?

My point is that even though George Lucas IS a hack, his invention of those species isn't what made him a hack. His mishandling of interpersonal relationships among his characters, and his lack of quality control in his own writing resulting in plotholes you could fly a Super Star Destroyer through are what makes George Lucas a hack.
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TangledDruid
09.23.2012 , 02:26 AM | #217
Quote: Originally Posted by Captain_Zone View Post
So George Lucas is a hack, then? Well, yes actually he is. He might not have invented Cathar, but he invented Shistavanens, Trandoshans, and Mon Calamari. Since your problem seems to be with aliens that mimick animals, your point is hearby dismissed as a double standard. Now, my question for you is this: Why do you even play Star Wars with all the animal mimicking aliens in it?

My point is that even though George Lucas IS a hack, his invention of those species isn't what made him a hack. His mishandling of interpersonal relationships among his characters, and his lack of quality control in his own writing resulting in plotholes you could fly a Super Star Destroyer through are what makes George Lucas a hack.
I'll try to condense the for the twitter generation.

"Star Wars Is Cool"
"I want to be a writer"
"Cat People from asian works are Cool"

Omg I'm going to write a star wars story WITH cat people!!

Yes, the other races are based off of animals, but not shamelessly ripped from other works.

I suppose if your exposure is limited, you don't see the the rip offs.

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TangledDruid
09.23.2012 , 02:39 AM | #218
Actually, upon re reading the replies to my post, I'd like to clarify with an example.

My distaste for Cathar is not specifically because they are based off a cat.

If they came up with a pointy eared, green blooded, extremely logical alien race I would feel the same way

Having played Mass Effect, I'm having trouble with the Gree / Hypergate storyline as well... When I loaded PTS I thought....um, we did that

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Captain_Zone
09.23.2012 , 08:51 PM | #219
Quote: Originally Posted by TangledDruid View Post
I'll try to condense the for the twitter generation.

"Star Wars Is Cool"
"I want to be a writer"
"Cat People from asian works are Cool"

Omg I'm going to write a star wars story WITH cat people!!

Yes, the other races are based off of animals, but not shamelessly ripped from other works.

I suppose if your exposure is limited, you don't see the the rip offs.
What other works? The Cathar have been around since before Thundercats, Kilrathi, or any other cat species I can think of. They've been around since the Holiday Special, in fact. Granted, the name was added in Tales of the Jedi, but they were part of the Star Wars universe nearly as long as the others that George invented.

For reference, check the Appearances and take note of the First Appearance. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cathar
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Shivalka: Darth Baras is quite large, isn't he?
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RenaDyne
10.24.2012 , 01:48 AM | #220
Quote: Originally Posted by Andge View Post
In my opinion the playable species that are in the game already are so visually alike it's painful. I know it's been said before, but it is true that they are all basically humans with different coloured skin. Only the twileks stand out a bit, which is why all my characters are twilek, in an attempt to bring a bit of visual diversity to the game.
Therefore to me the cathar is a dull and pointless choice to add as playable race; they are just yet another race looking like humans but with a different skin colour.
I know BW painted themselves into a corner with the cut-scenes since all races must have a human-body size and shape because of them.
But there are plenty of races with bodies with human shape and size but heads that look far from human, Selkath, Togruta, Wookie, even Gungan would have been more fun for pete's sake!

Please BW, next time, give us a race that doesn't look human
Because Torguta wouldn't look and feel almost exactly the same as twileks with uglier heads, yep. Totally absolutely 100% Unique. And the chances of getting a gungan or Wookie are about the same as getting a jawa or deshad as a playable character, namely ,don't bloody count on it.
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