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What isn't the communites fault?


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Frostvein
06.02.2012 , 02:04 PM | #1
I keep hearing that the community is the reason why there are all these problems.

- it's the communities fault that too many servers were opened at launch.
- it's the communities fault that they don't understand the game.
- it's the communities fault that they have/had unrealistic expectations.
- it's the communities fault that they don't have the patience to wait out fixes.
- it's the communities fault that the server populations are too low, because of the previous point.
- it's the communities fault that they picked a dead server at launch.
- it's the communities fault that they aren't enjoying their dead server, re-roll already.
- it's the communities fault that they aren't entertained by the current content.
- it's the communities fault that people are turned off to this game because they trash it constantly.

And many, many more.


It is not my fault that this game is missing a ton of features and that people aren't happy. Serious question - at what point to we stop blaming the community for this games issues?
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Drudenfusz
06.02.2012 , 02:09 PM | #2
People love to assign blame, but the fanboys cannot imagine that BioWare can do mistakes... even though by now everybody sould know they do them (DA2 & ME3).
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thomasgallant
06.02.2012 , 02:12 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Frostvein View Post
I keep hearing that the community is the reason why there are all these problems.

- it's the communities fault that too many servers were opened at launch.

The community complained and bioware made a bad descision to open to many servers.. both at fault there.

- it's the communities fault that they don't understand the game.

Ive not seen complaints that people dont understand the game, but thats common not everyone will be good at every game

- it's the communities fault that they have/had unrealistic expectations.

the community had unrealistic expectations of a videogame.. hyping it up way beyond what is reasonable considering the time it took to make the game ( 3 years isnt that long in game designing)

- it's the communities fault that they don't have the patience to wait out fixes.

People are paying money, they are unhappy it is taking forever.. are they to impatient. in my opinion yes.. but its their money and their choice..

- it's the communities fault that the server populations are too low, because of the previous point.

partly the fault of people leaving due to impatientness and partially due to new games coming out...

- it's the communities fault that they picked a dead server at launch.

no one picked dead servers at launch, but people are refusing to try some of the fuller servers..

- it's the communities fault that they aren't enjoying their dead server, re-roll already.

valid argument, they can reroll it does change the dynamic of the game considerably

- it's the communities fault that they aren't entertained by the current content.

there is pleanty TO do..but not everyone wants to do all of it, they are pickey, (their right) and then they think there is nothing to do when there is nothing they WANT to do.

- it's the communities fault that people are turned off to this game because they trash it constantly.

trash talking a game just brings negativity... constructive critisim is one thing but ************ just to *****...completely different, and paints an unfair picture most of the time..


And many, many more.


It is not my fault that this game is missing a ton of features and that people aren't happy. Serious question - at what point to we stop blaming the community for this games issues?
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Kourage
06.02.2012 , 02:15 PM | #4
It's not our fault they released the game before it was ready.
Oh wait, it probably is. My bad.
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thomasgallant
06.02.2012 , 02:16 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Kourage View Post
It's not our fault they released the game before it was ready.
Oh wait, it probably is. My bad.
in truth it is likely EA's fault the game came out when it did.. was it to early? i dont think so.. i think their biggest problem was opening to many sservers at the begining... if they didnt do that the game would be in a hell of alot better state than it is now.
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ACLucius
06.02.2012 , 02:18 PM | #6
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- it's the communities fault that too many servers were opened at launch.
Never heard this one.

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- it's the communities fault that they don't understand the game.
If they don't understand the game, it is their own fault. This game is very straight forward about pretty much everything.

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- it's the communities fault that they have/had unrealistic expectations.
I didn't expect anything except exactly what they told us. I didn't expect this game to revolutionize MMO's, I didn't expect this game to beat WoW in anything, I didn't expect the game to have all of the luxuries some come with such as an LFG tool.

If you expected anything except what they said would be available at what time, it is your own fault, so yes, it is the communities' fault.

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- it's the communities fault that they don't have the patience to wait out fixes.
If you can't be patient, it is your own fault. When they rush out fixes, it breaks something else, so I'd rather wait for a fix if it means I won't have to deal with something else being broken. Yes, this is the communities' fault.

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- it's the communities fault that the server populations are too low, because of the previous point.
In part, yes, because the community didn't roll on lesser populated servers like people were complaining about at launch, but instead they rolled on the heavily populated ones.

However, Bioware also is partially at fault for opening too many servers. Grass isn't green on either side of the fence.

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- it's the communities fault that they picked a dead server at launch.
Because most people kept rolling on the big servers. It's not the fault of the people who rolled the dead ones, but the ones who rolled the heavy ones instead.

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- it's the communities fault that they aren't enjoying their dead server, re-roll already.
This is where we should have character transfers. To Biowares credit, they are bringing them in. I don't blame people for not paying $15 every month to play on a dead server, but once character transfers come out, if they don't resub to at least see what happens, then yes, it is their own fault at that point.

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- it's the communities fault that they aren't entertained by the current content.
Are you just making stuff up now to make your list longer?

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- it's the communities fault that people are turned off to this game because they trash it constantly.
Yep, you are.

Quote: Originally Posted by Frostvein View Post
It is not my fault that this game is missing a ton of features and that people aren't happy. Serious question - at what point to we stop blaming the community for this games issues?
How many threads in these forums are blaming the community as opposed to blaming Bioware? At what point does it stop becoming Biowares fault and we stop blaming them for every little thing, especially some of the things we can control. LFG tool? They have an LFG comment readily available. All it takes is 5 seconds to say "FP Heals" in it and people can guess based on your level what FP or content you are willing to do.

Bioware can be blamed for a lot, I'll admit. But the community can be blamed for a lot too.
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Algaram
06.02.2012 , 02:20 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by thomasgallant View Post
see bold for my thoughts...
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HexHammer
06.02.2012 , 02:22 PM | #8
It's ridiclious to blame the community for the devs poor decitions, just because the community demands more servers, doesn't automaticly makes the community at fault that the devs can't merge servers in proper time. Devs are the only to blame!
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Kthx
06.02.2012 , 02:22 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Algaram View Post
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I saw your response before you edited it (to avoid an infraction?) and I just have to say it's that kind of shenanigans that gives the community such a bad rep.

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thomasgallant
06.02.2012 , 02:23 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Algaram View Post
ive seen other post of yours thomas

Just wandering to you have a BW tattooed on you anywhere?
nope i just think people are far to critical of something that they havent given an overly fair shake to..

quitting without trying a full server isnt overly fair to the game... but like ive said in other posts... people are free to do whatever the hell they want.. quit or not.. doesnt bother me..

but they really dont need to stick around the forums of a game they hate complaining endlessly about it.. after of course pointing out repeatedly that they unsubbed..

if you unsub.. go away. return when 1.3 comes in, try it again, if its not to your liking go away again...i dont understand the sick thrill people get trolling the forums ************.


i like the game..its good. far from the best game ive played.. but its good. but the day i dont like it anymore is the day i leave...not stick around to complain endlessly.... doesnt make sense to me.
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