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ToS Violation for name ????


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Icecrypt
12.18.2011 , 03:49 PM | #131
Quote: Originally Posted by DCGoth View Post
You would think that they would have more things to complain about.

I guess the Devs have a little free time. I haven't had a single complaint or in-game comment that I was offending anyone. I also play well with others and have been in a few groups. Not a single player gripe.
You still have picked anemia which is a disease...i dont call my character cancer, aids or something religious like koran.
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umbongoumbongo
12.18.2011 , 03:53 PM | #132
Comparing anemia to aids and cancer is way more offensive than using it as a name.
Unless it is presenting as a symptom of a serious illness its an easy fix.

As for religion
There is an NPC named Holiday. Is the etymology sound enough?
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Tjienta
12.18.2011 , 04:08 PM | #133
Actually, the ToS specifically says you can not have any name at all.

Lets see you can only give a first name, combined with no names from history or popular culture. Well, that accounts for every human name ever created in any language, since history is a long time and a lot of people.

You are also not allowed to use jibberish names, which means all the alien names are not allowed either.

That is it, they just mutually excluded every name, real or imagined.

Therefor you are not allowed to play star wars if you want to hold true to the ToS. Therefore I see the ToS as invalid.
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umbongoumbongo
12.18.2011 , 04:13 PM | #134
Quote: Originally Posted by Tjienta View Post
Actually, the ToS specifically says you can not have any name at all.

Lets see you can only give a first name, combined with no names from history or popular culture. Well, that accounts for every human name ever created in any language, since history is a long time and a lot of people.

You are also not allowed to use jibberish names, which means all the alien names are not allowed either.

That is it, they just mutually excluded every name, real or imagined.

Therefor you are not allowed to play star wars if you want to hold true to the ToS. Therefore I see the ToS as invalid.
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jmdatcs
12.18.2011 , 04:17 PM | #135
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jollycynic
12.18.2011 , 04:22 PM | #136
Quote: Originally Posted by Vaestmannaeyjar View Post
The easiest way out is to stick with the policies to begin with. Being reported by ******es does not exonerate you in any way.
I don't think you quite get what I'm after here. Offensiveness is such an ambiguous and subjective standard that greifing is still quite likely when you think you're in line with the rules. My point was, do they keep an eye to the context in which a report occurs so that they may judge if someone takes genuine offense or is lying and using the ambiguity of offensiveness as a means to greif.
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TYGRHobbes
12.18.2011 , 04:24 PM | #137
I guess all the Justin'Biebers are gonna get nailed then. In Beta there was a Sasha'Grey and my Sith Warrior was Hanna'Montana. Guess I won't be using that name again.

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Colobulous
12.18.2011 , 04:24 PM | #138
Quote: Originally Posted by Tjienta View Post
Actually, the ToS specifically says you can not have any name at all.
No, it doesn't.

What it says is that Bioware reserves the right to institute a name change, and gives you no right to anny in particular.

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Lets see you can only give a first name, combined with no names from history or popular culture. Well, that accounts for every human name ever created in any language, since history is a long time and a lot of people.
You'll note that it says significant. So Julius Caesar wouldn't fly. Julius Romero is another story. Unless there's somebody famous named Julius Romero that I don't know about.

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You are also not allowed to use jibberish names, which means all the alien names are not allowed either.
No, if you read it, you'll see it says "Gibberish/unintelligible character names" which is meant to cover things like Qcvvdrdsdssrf as opposed to Qulusoro which would be ok.

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That is it, they just mutually excluded every name, real or imagined.
Hardly. It's your tortuous reasoning that is at fault, not theirs.

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Therefor you are not allowed to play star wars if you want to hold true to the ToS. Therefore I see the ToS as invalid.
Go with that. I'm sure they'll listen to you. Oh wait, no, they won't, nor will anybody in authority.

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Colobulous
12.18.2011 , 04:28 PM | #139
Quote: Originally Posted by jollycynic View Post
I don't think you quite get what I'm after here. Offensiveness is such an ambiguous and subjective standard that greifing is still quite likely when you think you're in line with the rules. My point was, do they keep an eye to the context in which a report occurs so that they may judge if someone takes genuine offense or is lying and using the ambiguity of offensiveness as a means to greif.
If somebody is able to articulate a reason for the name to be offensive, then what is the point in worrying about any conflict that might have occurred between the parties?

Offensiveness is certainly an ambiguous standard, but then, that's why the description in the TOS is clearly examples, not definitive, and why they aren't necessarily going to punish you just for choosing a name that might be offensive.

I'm sure there's a policy to cover frivolous complaints, but I wouldn't bother worrying about it, since chances are it won't come up anywhere you can do anything about it.

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umbongoumbongo
12.18.2011 , 04:29 PM | #140
"You may not use names that are religiously or historically significant, e.g. Jesus, Winston Churchill."


If Jesus gets in, do the disciples?
No Matthews, Marks, Luke(!), John, Mary, Mungo, Ringo, or Midge?

Seems a little unfair to our Hispanic friends too.
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