(From Taugrim.com)SWTOR Has Repeated RIFT’s Mistakes in Endgame PVP

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Sweet jeebus, I've seen some weak arguments before but.....jeebus.

Taugrim does make a lot of sense and seems objective enough about things. My only input is to say that PvP should NEVER EVER be about gear as a primary focus. Player versus Player (Group PvP) should be more about Skill, Teamwork, Communication, Class Knowledge (of yours and your opponents), the ability to anticipate moves and good usage of class cooldowns. THEN GEAR should fit in somewhere around the last two;

SKILL > TEAMWORK > COMMS > KNOWLEDGE > GEAR >ANTICIPATION > COOLDOWNS

But in SWTOR its too far up on the list (as in TOP of);

GEAR > SKILL > TEAMWORK > COMMS > KNOWLEDGE > ANTICIPATION > COOLDOWNS

And that is just plain wrong. Award special weapons, the most coolest mounts ever, along with titles and what not for winning and progressing in PvP but armor should not have such a deciding and overiding factor in PvP like it does. balance the playing filed better and let teams duke it out uisng skill, comms, teamwork, etc, you know the things that matter in PvP.

what he has basicly stated is what i kept saying long before that was posted lol.
the thing is bioware are not listening.

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Damn BW just nerfed this thread wish they´d be as fast with new content on pvp.

I intentionally did not post my blog article on the forums here, because I didn't want to initiate a flamefest.

FWIW, I've been blogging my concerns - based on predictions and actual experience - about Patch 1.2 since the notes about the patch first hit the PTS back in mid-March.

BioWare reads every thread posted on their forums. I think many players do not realize how heavily BW has invested in their Community Management team.

I have been a huge of fan from SWTOR since I first tried the game last October at New York Comic Con. I was excited about the game and the team working on it.

I've had the opportunity to talk in person (and over the phone) with various members of the BW teams, from Writing, Design, Community Management, and Live Services, and IMO they are collectively some of the most passionate and friendly developers I've ever met from gaming companies. They're awesome people.

For those of you who don't know me, let me simply say this: BioWare has delivered some amazing things in terms of PVP. The warzone design, in particular Huttball and Novare Coast, is highly innovative. The combat animations / sound are epic. The 10-49 bracket is arguably the most fun PVP battleground experience I've had in any game.

I'm just bummed because I think 1.2 as far as the PVP was a step backwards. The Interface Editor, AH changes, other content changes, etc were all good things in 1.2. But IMO PVP has taken a significant hit, esp at endgame, for the reasons I stated in my article.

I just hope that things get sorted out fast enough to make a meaningful difference to the playerbase, to retain a critical mass of subscribers.

You would propose downtrading RWZ commendations to WZ commendations to buy BM gear? Downtrading is 1:1. Trading up from WZ to RWZ commendations is 3:1.

If you are suggesting, for example, that I should have traded in my 3.5k RWZ comms for 3.5k WZ comms to buy Battlemaster gear, when 3.5k RWZ comms are worth 10.5k WZ comms, well, let's just say you and I have a fundamentally different understanding of basic arithmetic. I can't say it any other way without potentially getting flagged by the mods.

It's far more efficient to spend RWZ comms on WH gear.
I had 4-pc BM within a few days of dinging 50.

Personally I would have bought the warhero implants and earpieces for your RWZ commendations as they dont need the battlemaster piece as a trade in.

I actually dislike some of the comparisons to Rift End Game PvP, because lets face it, Rifts End Game PvP is superior to this games End game PvP.

A. Rift has more maps then SWTOR, and other then Huttball, everyone of them is flat out better then SWTOR's Version.

B. Rift actually has character advancement in PvP, not just gear Advancement.

C. Rift actually had open world PvP, Not only that, it was actually functional and could actually be played.

D. Rift is about to have 3 Faction PvP, 1.9 Patch includes a Massive reworked Stillmoor where 3 Factions go head to head over it.

E. It has actual Cross Server War Fronts, It's also got a Merc system where if one side doesn't have enough players, it'll switch the people from the other faction over to fill up the map.

F. None of the maps are limited to just 8v8 cause the game can only support 8v8 without it lagging out.

So in regards to Rift, SWTOR wishes it could even begin to compete with Rift's PvP mistakes, let alone it's success.

You understand no one is complaining about Guardians or Powertech's who run their Tank Stance Right?

When someone says "Pyro Powertech is overpowered" They're not talking about someone running ion cell, they're talking about someone running CGC. A Pyro Tech is not tanky by any standard.

The only class right now that is able to do someone decent damage and tank at same time, is the Assassin, and even then, They're winning long drawn out fights with moderate dps/good tanking/moderate healing.

They're not out dpsing any actual DPSer, You will never see an assassin who's tank spec with DPS gear approach anywhere near the DPS of a Pyro, Marauder, Sniper.

As for Powertech's in general, All Bioware has to do to make Pyro Less played is make Shield Tech actually viable in PvP, i mean it's alright...but its not really needed when you can just explode people guarded now cause of the DPS in the game.