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(From Taugrim.com)SWTOR Has Repeated RIFT’s Mistakes in Endgame PVP

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(From Taugrim.com)SWTOR Has Repeated RIFT’s Mistakes in Endgame PVP
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DoctorWhorrible
05.21.2012 , 03:57 PM | #171
Quote: Originally Posted by Stilly View Post
Fact.

Stop trashing games you know nothing about. There is literally nothing this game does better than gw2 or Secret World for that matter. You can give a turd a light saber and a soundtrack if you like, it is still Darth Turd.
I hate to poke my head into this troll thread, but being in the Secret World closed beta I think I need to temper everyone's expectations (as people seem to be lauding that game in this thread for some reason). There are massive problems with that game at this stage that go beyond polish. I'm not gonna say it will be horrible, but people really need to temper their expectations of that game in particular or else they're gonna be very disappointed .

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svartalfimposter
05.21.2012 , 04:05 PM | #172
Quote: Originally Posted by cashogy View Post
did anyone answer this? the fact that he did this pretty much invalidates everything he wrote.
^^That statement is false. Plus, if you read what the linked page, you may understand the context.
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Orangerascal
05.21.2012 , 04:10 PM | #173
Quote: Originally Posted by xxdragonragexx View Post
They both are the same. No gear, 3 sides fighting. All the features of guild wars 2 is copied from planetside. They just put RPG in the title. That game will suck just like guild wars 1.
yeah guild wars 1 sucked so much it sold 8m copies ... enough to fun a sequel.
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whatthefett
05.21.2012 , 04:33 PM | #174
Common sense to me. Anyone could report this. If you can't see the fundamental truth in these statements you must be sitting on the fleet right now, dreaming of a queue.

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Masturomenos
05.21.2012 , 04:49 PM | #175
Quote: Originally Posted by Dmasterr View Post
To PvP for 20 years, and never rise above average status. Is the epitome of fails.

That alone is reason enough for not caring what he has to say about balance in any game related issues.... ever
Look to think that is crazy. It could be a time commitment or real life schedule keeping him from being able to get to the top 3 spots in any game. Ive been in a top 50 world guild in wow since tbc, ive made glad multple times on 2 seperate toons, i was in the top rift pvp guild before the ranks went from 8 to 40, i am playing in one of the best if not the best pvp guilds in swtor and had one of the top 3 bh healers pre 1.2 and now top 3 op healers since 1.2 and i have used taugrims blog for a long time. Its not about his position itshis understanding of mechanics and of way games work. He was spot on about rift and swtor future. His guide for cleric dps/healer hybrids was so good that i used it to kill him in rift on daybllind server before i was r6 and he was in r8 gear.

Its not about being the best no one can ever be #1 forever and to think you ever know it all is to only become orse by refusing to listen and learn. I read blogs and get excellent info from different views and it all works when put together correctly.

I trust Taugrim but u know who i dont trust the bioware devs and no one can prove the opposite since the proof is in your server population. Taugrims blog to one articel has more replies then 90% of bioware servers have players logged in. Taugrims is a great blogger who knows his stuff and i would only hope a company like bioware (who by the way invited him to be one of the first peple to test swtor pvp because they trust his opinion) would hire him to consult them on how to make pvp better.
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GRINnBARRETT
05.21.2012 , 04:59 PM | #176
I've had my disagreements with Taugrim in the past (Rift rogues!), but here's the thing:

1. You can have an intelligent conversation with him concerning pvp. He won't go flying off the collar just b/c you don't agree with him or play his same style.
2. He's usually right on par with his overall pvp game assessments.
3. He has more pvp "common sense" then some pvp devs I know
4. He's "nail on the head" in his latest blog post.

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AlyxDinas
05.21.2012 , 05:00 PM | #177
Quote: Originally Posted by DoctorWhorrible View Post
I hate to poke my head into this troll thread, but being in the Secret World closed beta I think I need to temper everyone's expectations (as people seem to be lauding that game in this thread for some reason). There are massive problems with that game at this stage that go beyond polish. I'm not gonna say it will be horrible, but people really need to temper their expectations of that game in particular or else they're gonna be very disappointed .
Having played the game as well, I'd add my voice to this statement as well. TSW does few things right. Those things, they do pretty dam well. The majority is amazingly underwhelming.
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Pekish
05.21.2012 , 05:17 PM | #178
like any MMORPG will be from here and forever... perfection actually not perfection but "dept" come only with years and years of fine tuning MMORPG at release will ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS be mediocre

and people will always scream fail to everything ruining the chance the game has to grow over time

there is not enough money involved to go full FEAT at release. (then some software house throw away a good bunch of money in voice acting but that's not the point there will never be enough money to make a game that please everybody)

people are so naive

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xxdragonragexx
05.21.2012 , 05:42 PM | #179
Quote: Originally Posted by Masturomenos View Post
Look to think that is crazy. It could be a time commitment or real life schedule keeping him from being able to get to the top 3 spots in any game. Ive been in a top 50 world guild in wow since tbc, ive made glad multple times on 2 seperate toons, i was in the top rift pvp guild before the ranks went from 8 to 40, i am playing in one of the best if not the best pvp guilds in swtor and had one of the top 3 bh healers pre 1.2 and now top 3 op healers since 1.2 and i have used taugrims blog for a long time. Its not about his position itshis understanding of mechanics and of way games work. He was spot on about rift and swtor future. His guide for cleric dps/healer hybrids was so good that i used it to kill him in rift on daybllind server before i was r6 and he was in r8 gear.

Its not about being the best no one can ever be #1 forever and to think you ever know it all is to only become orse by refusing to listen and learn. I read blogs and get excellent info from different views and it all works when put together correctly.

I trust Taugrim but u know who i dont trust the bioware devs and no one can prove the opposite since the proof is in your server population. Taugrims blog to one articel has more replies then 90% of bioware servers have players logged in. Taugrims is a great blogger who knows his stuff and i would only hope a company like bioware (who by the way invited him to be one of the first peple to test swtor pvp because they trust his opinion) would hire him to consult them on how to make pvp better.
I think the argument was that he has 20 years of pvp experience so people should listen to him.
The counter argument was that no one should really listen to him cuz he isn't a good player and never was a good player which means he doesn't know his stuff or the game.

In MMO, it is very easy to do great, all a person has to do is know his stuff or know each classes abilities to be able to counter or create counter strategies. If you dedicate your free time to doing great, it is easy to do so in MMO. Rather than blogging or talking about games, he could be playing them.

It is like sports radio talk shows, people can say anything but they can't really play. Doesn't mean they are right or wrong. It just means everyone has an opinion.

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anticept
05.21.2012 , 08:33 PM | #180
Quote: Originally Posted by Dmasterr View Post
It only appears so to players who posses even less skill, aka below average.

trying your best and still be average, is not the same as succeeding and being pro.
USING colors doesn´t make you any more Pr0 than this Taugrim is and really how can you describe anyone as pro when all of us pay for our gametime or do you consider your dad paying for yours making you pro...
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Karsk View Post
This has nothing to do with what server it is.This bug is on all servers.
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