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Altyrell
01.23.2013 , 12:22 PM | #221
Quote: Originally Posted by CrazyOldMystic View Post
Wookiees, Rodians, and Trandoshans. Wookiees for republic only. Rodians for both Empire and Republic. Lastly Trandoshans for Empire only. As the story line seems to indicate the Republic has a dislike for the Trandoshans, and the Empire is exploiting that to their advantage.
Wookiees don't speak Basic, and the Trandoshans are PART of the Republic during this Era thus would be available to both. Also, the FIRST Companion of the Jedi Consular IS a Trandoshan. So Rodians and Trandoshans, if ever made it into the game as Playable Species would and should be available to both sides.

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Costello
01.23.2013 , 12:54 PM | #222
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I think I should add here that I know quite a few people who have literally stopped playing (if they started in the first place) because that cannot create a character that they can actually relate to. And yes, that is because there is a lack of the the more exotic alien species (ie. non-Near-humans). Quite frankly, I probably wouldn't be playing (or even picked the game up in the first place) if I hadn't had an interest in the Sith species before SW:TOR came around. BioWare absolutely loves to talk about the relatability of our characters, but have essentially robbed us of the ability to relate because our favourite species weren't included.

Human beings are wonderfully empathetic creatures, able to relate to virtually anything: other people, animals, plants, inanimate objects (both natural and artificial) and even abstract concepts that have no physical presence. It is almost offensive to trivialize this human capacity by stating that a human face is needed to be able to relate to something.
Agreed and I wish someone or many people from Bioware would appreciate what a massively important aspect of the game this is.

Now it can seem like such a minor thing to play the species you want. After all you are probably Human so why wouldn't you be happy with playing a human or a coloured Human. And I'd agree with this if this was my job to play the game and was being paid to do it. But sadly not. So its a leisure pursuit and in that case its all about getting to play the game your way and making the most of your free time.

So settling for a species that isn't really your first, second or even 5th choice makes it a little harder to enjoy the gane, then when the story is played through and you only have repeatable end game content it becomes more of a drag to log in until you feel no connection with your Avatar (cause the choice was just settled with not chosen) and you wonder why you are bothering. Now you give people decent choices this creates a better connection, more likely to play and grind out that end game gear and perhaps from BW point of view more likely to purchase armour and sets from the cartel market cause now they see a reason to have that pet or speeder or colour crystal for that character.

But instead BW seem to want to ignore the importance of more species, slowly drag out the Cathar that can hardly be said to be Alien and more a coloured human with bad hair cut. And then hold any more species hostage unless people buy Cathar but without even offering the Kickstart option of if we sell this many you will get more species and you purchase Cathar will get to help pick them.

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CrazyOldMystic
01.23.2013 , 01:30 PM | #223
"Wookiees don't speak Basic, and the Trandoshans are PART of the Republic during this Era thus would be available to both. Also, the FIRST Companion of the Jedi Consular IS a Trandoshan. So Rodians and Trandoshans, if ever made it into the game as Playable Species would and should be available to both sides."

First I could never grow tired of hearing wookiee speak. Secondly did you ever both doing the flashpoint, the false Emperor, in it the story line clearly states the Republic chose to keep its distance from the Trandoshans. To further the point t Malgus props up the point that the Republic failed to use the Trandoshans, and that he did not make the same mistake. The companion of the Jedi Counsular is a rare trandoshan, as the storyline for said companion, brings out the fact that most of his race is the complete opposite of himself. Again on the first point I find some of the alien speak annoying after awhile, but truth be told I have never grown tired of hearing wookiee speak.

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Izorii
01.23.2013 , 05:35 PM | #224
Quote: Originally Posted by CrazyOldMystic View Post
"Wookiees don't speak Basic, and the Trandoshans are PART of the Republic during this Era thus would be available to both. Also, the FIRST Companion of the Jedi Consular IS a Trandoshan. So Rodians and Trandoshans, if ever made it into the game as Playable Species would and should be available to both sides."

First I could never grow tired of hearing wookiee speak. Secondly did you ever both doing the flashpoint, the false Emperor, in it the story line clearly states the Republic chose to keep its distance from the Trandoshans. To further the point t Malgus props up the point that the Republic failed to use the Trandoshans, and that he did not make the same mistake. The companion of the Jedi Counsular is a rare trandoshan, as the storyline for said companion, brings out the fact that most of his race is the complete opposite of himself. Again on the first point I find some of the alien speak annoying after awhile, but truth be told I have never grown tired of hearing wookiee speak.
The flash point false emproer opens up a huge opening for the Sith to intoroduce more alien species into the empire. As does the book Annihilation where we see the first non human, non pure blooed member of the dark council. There is a lot more lore in allowing Trandoshan and Rodian into the empire than Chiss or Pure bloods as repuiblic troopers.

As for Trandoshan I seem to recall the Republic treats them badly they dont even get a sentor because they are in the same system as the wookies and the wookies have a senator.

I support more species but I dont think BW will ever allow non basic speaking player species.

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AsheraII
01.23.2013 , 06:37 PM | #225
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An early build of the game had Tython populated by a race other than Twi'leks, and after about the fourth quest, you want to put a fist through your monitor.
Why do I have a hunch those were Ithorians?

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kirorx
01.26.2013 , 07:49 PM | #226
I say YES to alien unlock

Link this through legacy, if you play a class up to level 50 you unlock non basic speaking aliens

I would be happy with a very basic alien species creator even if it only had like two head options each.

Implementing this way does not affect the bioware storyline and its optional

I know I can't stand re rolling the same class because its the same voice and I actually roll female toon alts to avoid the repetitive sounds and subtitled gibberish would be great alternative

An alien unlock system could get frequent updates in which people with unlocked alien option can buy new alien species through the cartel market so bioware can make money off this

If linked to legacy and its an alien unlock not an individual species unlock then it would be acceptable to use basic npc looks without having to create anything too original

The subtitles exist, the npcs exist and gibberish exists already, so just make it happen. You don't have recreate the wheel, simplify
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Ratham
01.26.2013 , 08:01 PM | #227
Quote: Originally Posted by DamionSchubert View Post
We probably would never make a non-English speaking player race. I know it seems attractive, but simply put, hearing alien for way too long drives you crazy. An early build of the game had Tython populated by a race other than Twi'leks, and after about the fourth quest, you want to put a fist through your monitor.

So any races we add in the future will need to plausibly be able to speak basic.
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Socialist
01.26.2013 , 08:11 PM | #228
Voss would be fantastic.

A Voss Sorcerer would give me some serious geekgasm.
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Vitas
01.26.2013 , 08:23 PM | #229
It wouldn't be impossible making Wookiees, Ithorians, Talz etc. playable, it would just take a very long time to develop. If they can't speak basic, then simply substitute the dialogue with their native language and have subtitles played underneath. If they're unlikely to romance a companion then have them restricted from flirting or have any attempts to automatically fail. Of course gear would be the big challenge as they'd nead to alter every piece so they don't clip and appear properly or they could take the short path make them not appear at all like on Broomark.
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ReyAljin
01.26.2013 , 08:58 PM | #230
I dont get it...cant they just have Alien races like Trandoshans speak galactic basic using the same dialogue but alteration to the way the voice sounds.?? When Bossk speaks on the Clone Wars its clear that Galactic Basic is not his first language but he speaks just fine....and his voice sounds great. They did it with a Kel-Dor on Taris, and Narshadaa...the actual dialogue for the PC's has no reason to change just the audio. And if they're worried about clipping and the way the character models relate to armor. Havent they gotten enough experimentation with our Companion characters to make a variable assessment how we (THE CONSUMER) feel on this matter. Or maybe Biowares just lazy. The Togruta the Cathar the Kel-Dor the Mon Calamari the Rodians and the Trandoshans should have been playable from launch...becuase with only minor tweaks everyone of them should have worked. Me personally i love the Trandoshan's and would have made a Trandoshan Bounty Hunter in a hot second. Wookie's should have been included as well. Because i for one never get tired of hearing Shyriiwook. And second evrery Star Wars fan carries a love for Wookie's. Stop trying to give us a Bioware game with a Star Wars IP. TOR was suppose to be THE STAR WARS GAME!!! Its time to stop making excuses MAN UP and do what you promise Bioware...you'll find that were not that hard to please.
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