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Slicing Lock box Missions - Still not right or broke again?

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Slicing Lock box Missions - Still not right or broke again?
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ThiborF
05.19.2012 , 06:44 PM | #1
With patch 1.2.2 on May 1st BioWare stated the following:

"Slicing
Premium Slicing lockboxes now yield the correct amount of credits."

Can we get a definition from the devs on what "correct" means?

Class 5 "Rich" lock box mission run this morning costing 1900 credits and change resulted in a "Premium" (ie. green) case that had 1662 credits in it. Roughly a 300 credit loss.

Did same 2 days ago with one Class 5 "Rich" mission and two Class 4 "Rich" missions for lock boxes resulted in three premium cases, all at anywhere from 150-300+ less than the mission cost.

While not to the extent it was borked previously, this seems still off as at worst case scenario you should roughly break even or make 5-10% (ie. on a mission costing roughly 2k, you should at least get back a couple of hundred.)

Is it the intention that lock box slicing missions be a risk rather that a worst case roughly break-even scenario?

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Anval
05.20.2012 , 09:11 AM | #2
I can confirm that the green and higher lockboxes now drop more now than we they had the bug. I only run the Class 6 missions (data race and plug the leak). Before the patch, I received several class 6 premium boxes that had between 800-1500 credits. The standard boxes drop roughly 1200-2200 credits. After the patch, I received 2 premium boxes that were 2400 and 2600.

On a side note, what the patch notes did not tell you was that they changed the drop rates for receiving crafting missions from crits. I used to receive a crafting mission or schematic about once in 5 runs. Since the latest patch, I have not received a single mission or schematic in approximately 20 runs this weekend.

Anval

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DJAlleyKat
05.20.2012 , 07:32 PM | #3
The slicing mission I still feel are working as intended. Some missions are just riskier than others, the one you implied "fly on the wall" has a larger chance to have loss in the lock boxes, but larger gains inside when you do get them positive gains. In the end, it evens out to a net gain of credits.

Here is a spreadsheet I tallied up after the fix was put into place for all 5 of the grade 5 lock box missions.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...hQW1GakE#gid=0

Hopefully that will show some numbers similar to what you are getting from time to time, and indicate in the longer run... you do win.


Edit Note: Forgot to share doc (fixed) All data is with max affection bounty hunter companions.
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Imani-Hype
05.20.2012 , 10:02 PM | #4
OP, are all your companions' affection max? Ive been reading many post saying how they barely get and schematics or missions from G5 or G6. What I found weird or maybe I just got super damn god loves me lucky, is that none of my companions are over 3k affection, but yet today, I manage to get 3 UWT 340 missions, 4 Diplomacy 340, 1 Slicing 340 and couple of 300 missions and schems. I've been wanting to max my comps affection, but having second thoughts with the results I've had.

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Kencussion
05.21.2012 , 07:08 AM | #5
This chart https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...VE&output=html shows the results for every basic Lockbox slicing mission (20 samples each) since the patch 1.2.2. Should help a bit. It's all in which missions you pick.

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netskink
05.21.2012 , 07:31 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Kencussion View Post
This chart https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...VE&output=html shows the results for every basic Lockbox slicing mission (20 samples each) since the patch 1.2.2. Should help a bit. It's all in which missions you pick.
Am I reading this correctly? Only chance to get a cybertech schematic is with "his home is his castle"?
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Kencussion
05.21.2012 , 11:58 AM | #7
No, it's just what I recorded. If you look, you'll find other bonus items with an S(for Schematics) from other missions. My chart doesn't guarantee what you'll get, but provides a decent set of averages. Obviously, having a larger sample set would make the averages more accurate, but I don't have time to do 100 of each mission. :-P I thought 20 samples was decent enough for each mission.

I'm not sure, but I REALLY think there is a 10%-15% chance that you'll get a bonus item no matter which mission you select. And when you DO get a bonus item, then there is another roll to determine which type of bonus item it is (Cybertech Schematic, Bioanalysis mission, Treasure Hunting mission, etc). So getting a schematic would probably be around 10% out of the 10% chance to get a bonus item... so you're looking at possibly getting a Cybertech schematic at a 1% rate (1 in every 100 slicing missions).

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HelinCarnate
05.21.2012 , 12:36 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Anval View Post
On a side note, what the patch notes did not tell you was that they changed the drop rates for receiving crafting missions from crits. I used to receive a crafting mission or schematic about once in 5 runs. Since the latest patch, I have not received a single mission or schematic in approximately 20 runs this weekend.

Anval
That does not mean that they changed the drop rates. It means that you were unlucky.
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HelinCarnate
05.21.2012 , 12:38 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Imani-Hype View Post
OP, are all your companions' affection max? Ive been reading many post saying how they barely get and schematics or missions from G5 or G6. What I found weird or maybe I just got super damn god loves me lucky, is that none of my companions are over 3k affection, but yet today, I manage to get 3 UWT 340 missions, 4 Diplomacy 340, 1 Slicing 340 and couple of 300 missions and schems. I've been wanting to max my comps affection, but having second thoughts with the results I've had.
Max affection adds 1% crit chance for each tier and there are 5 tiers.
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ThiborF
05.21.2012 , 03:05 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by HelinCarnate View Post
Max affection adds 1% crit chance for each tier and there are 5 tiers.
Correct. And my understanding is that companion affection may alter the % chance I get for receiving a prototype (blue) case vs. premium (green) but does not affect the credit amounts found inside.

Only test the Rich class 4 and 5 boxes a handful of times. Got one crit and the premium case was okay, (around 5700 iirc) for a class 5 rich that cost around 2k to run. I had crits in the past be 7k+ though that was rare. However, more importantly ALL of the premium cases were below mission cost in rewarded credits.

My results are a small sample size so will have to do lengthier testing to check for a stronger indicator of the pattern. But, I'm mostly looking for a simple developer comment stating either that
"Yes, it is intended that slicing lock box missions be a risk and you won't necessarily get back the mission cost"
OR
"No, it's no intended that you should lose money by running those and we'll look into it."