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Are the Sith really Evil?


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OldVengeance
Old 05.19.2012 , 01:47 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Mordegrus View Post
But the Sith view themselves as working for the common good.
They are just establishing a rule that is only natural: the strong must rule the weak.
But the Jedi want everyone to be equal and fair.
This is why they have an eternal conflict with each other.
It's not really the "common good" if It's for the benefit of the strongest.

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Supahhappy
Old 05.19.2012 , 01:52 PM | #12
Can anyone here name a redeeming quality about Darth Sidious?
Has lost all faith in BioWare since EA has gutted them and stole their soul. Will never buy another game from this shell of its former self.

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Maaruin
Old 05.19.2012 , 02:00 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by ragnnerok View Post
Evil is not a term that can be easilly defined. Neither is good. This is because there is truly no such thing as good and evil. A typical *good* person would not kill a murderer, but if he let that person live there is the chance that that murderer would just keep on killing. So if he kept that person alive would it not be evil. There is only right and wrong. Is it right to let a weak sith live and continue to scew up jobs causing the death of hundreds of people? Is it wrong to kill a person who could be a potential threat to the entire galaxy. Those are the types of questions you need to ask you self when talking about *good and evil* because really there is only right and wrong.
But the average Sith is the murderer. Powerful Sith are the ones who causes the death of hundreds of people. And the most powerful Sith are the ones who could be a potential threat to the entire galaxy.

Most Sith (not all) would do everything necessary to gain power. Now, here on earth people like that (Napoleon) wouldn't be called evil necessarily. But in fictional settings they are called evil.
"I was one of many. We were servants of the dark side… Sith Lords, we called ourselves. So proud. In the end we were not so proud. We hid… hid from those we had betrayed. We fell… and I knew it would be so."
-Ajunta Pall

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Old 05.19.2012 , 02:40 PM | #14
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Can anyone here name a redeeming quality about Darth Sidious?
The Empire he built would have whipped the Yuuzhan Vong, while the Republic he destroyed would have fallen to them.

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Old 05.19.2012 , 03:28 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Velaran View Post
The Empire he built would have whipped the Yuuzhan Vong, while the Republic he destroyed would have fallen to them.
True, he did have a force vision that the Yuuzhan Vong were coming, but I don't think he would have defended his empire to save the lives of others. He built his empire around himself, so being the emperor of course he would protect his own power. He wouldn't have easily given up his throne, and would have most likely sent waves upon waves of troops into a slaughter just to make sure he held his power.

With all their superweapons, the Empire probably would have defeated the Yuuzhan Vong, (Though since it never happened, I can't be sure) but it would have been more to selfishly hold power instead of save the galaxy. I wouldn't say him wanting to stay in total power so he can abuse and rule over the galaxy would be considered a redeeming quality.
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Old 05.19.2012 , 04:49 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by ragnnerok View Post
Evil is not a term that can be easilly defined. Neither is good. This is because there is truly no such thing as good and evil. A typical *good* person would not kill a murderer, but if he let that person live there is the chance that that murderer would just keep on killing. So if he kept that person alive would it not be evil. There is only right and wrong. Is it right to let a weak sith live and continue to scew up jobs causing the death of hundreds of people? Is it wrong to kill a person who could be a potential threat to the entire galaxy. Those are the types of questions you need to ask you self when talking about *good and evil* because really there is only right and wrong.
This is exactly what I would say.
Morality is not based on good or bad, but the perspective you are viewing from.
“Equality is a lie…A myth to appease the masses. Simply look around and you will see the lie for what it is! There are those with power, those with the strength and will to lead. And there are those meant to follow—those incapable of anything but servitude and a meager, worthless existence.”

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Old 05.19.2012 , 04:54 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Supahhappy View Post
Can anyone here name a redeeming quality about Darth Sidious?
Well, he was working for justice for his own people.
The Jedi wiped out his people.
“Equality is a lie…A myth to appease the masses. Simply look around and you will see the lie for what it is! There are those with power, those with the strength and will to lead. And there are those meant to follow—those incapable of anything but servitude and a meager, worthless existence.”

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Old 05.19.2012 , 05:36 PM | #18
His people were evil. All of them. And they started the wars with the Jedi. Every single time in history. Heck, seeing as the Sith Order were in hiding for the last 1000 years more sith were killed by other sith than by jedi. It's not really a sense of justice that motivates him, more like hatred and greed much as it did his predecessors.

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Old 05.19.2012 , 11:24 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Mordegrus View Post
Well, he was working for justice for his own people.
The Jedi wiped out his people.
I don't remember any moments him talking about avenging his fallen brothers, so if ya have any examples please share.

I always saw him wiping out the Jedi more of his way of eliminating any threats to his new empire, since the Jedi tend to mess up the Siths plans. I know he hated the Jedi just like any other Sith, but he never seemed like he killed them to bring justice. He still had the children killed, and sacraficed Dooku, his fellow Sith.
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Old 05.20.2012 , 02:07 PM | #20
Ok, but we are not any different than the Sith.
We are greedy, and when we are very angry, we murder people.
So are we evil?
“Equality is a lie…A myth to appease the masses. Simply look around and you will see the lie for what it is! There are those with power, those with the strength and will to lead. And there are those meant to follow—those incapable of anything but servitude and a meager, worthless existence.”