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Andryah
05.17.2012 , 10:51 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Celebrus View Post
I'm tired of people telling me to view the game more like they do, to play the game more like they do, and to treat the game more like they do.

I'm not you, thankfully, so please, stop trying to tell other people how they should be playing and viewing this game. It isn't your place.
That cut's both way pal, unless you operate on the assumption that you are entitled to double standards.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Galbatorrix
05.17.2012 , 10:51 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Rohgur View Post
Alright i am done with this post as my intentions were to give a renewed hope to a game that apparently everyone has some remorse for playing in the first place. My time spent playing this game obviously has a greater reflection than my overall gaming experience of 24 years. I dont need a level 50 in Star Wars to know the frustrations of playing an MMO where at the end game content level there is minimal interactions and very few things to do. Ive been there before on other games and it seems no matter how many times or ways i state that fact im still going to be treated as someone who is inexperienced regardless of any other factors.
Don't take it personally man. I've been playing for 6 months, had to reroll in order to keep playing with actual people and I still love this game and am mostly positive in all of my posts. Because of that positive attitude, I've already had a couple posters say out right that I'm now on their ignore list. Honestly, with the current negative state of the board right now, I'd be surprised if most people saw my posts at all.


Either way, once transfers/1.3 hits, I'm sure a lot of the negativity will subside.

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Celebrus
05.17.2012 , 10:52 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Rouge View Post
The matrix cubes were corrected quickly. Games which want a long future won't be offering transfers quickly, not least because they expected growth, not dying servers. And so on.
Games that want a long future will be addressing problems that most impact their game quickly, rather than slowly. That isn't being done here. If transfers are what is required, then get them to us, because it doesn't matter what they WANT from SWToR if the game is dying in front of their eyes. It doesn't matter what you expected from the game, everyone, including Bioware, expected a population drop. It was their lack of preperation that left us in this position.

The matrix cubes were corrected after like 3 days, which isn't very quickly for a problem which you paint to be so minor.

Why are so many of you so accepting of failure exactly?

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Holden_Dissent
05.17.2012 , 10:53 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Alki View Post
I flamed everyone that said this game sucks and that it was going to fail.
I flamed anyone that brought up stock market numbers and said EA was killing the game.
I flamed everyone that said anything derogatory about this game.

Then my server died, my guild left for other games and then realized that there was a problem.

So I re-rolled.

The server I re-rolled on, died shortly after I hit 50 (again).

I am no longer flaming the haters as I have pretty much become one.
I don't know about you, but my patience cannot and will not wait until at least June 30th to fix the lack of an MMO this game has turned out to be. It's definitely not worth the subscription fee in my honest opinion.
Don't hate the game. Hate the players.

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Andryah
05.17.2012 , 10:53 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
Don't take it personally man. I've been playing for 6 months, had to reroll in order to keep playing with actual people and I still love this game and am mostly positive in all of my posts. Because of that positive attitude, I've already had a couple posters say out right that I'm now on their ignore list. Honestly, with the current negative state of the board right now, I'd be surprised if most people saw my posts at all.


Either way, once transfers/1.3 hits, I'm sure a lot of the negativity will subside.
I agree.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Celebrus
05.17.2012 , 10:54 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Holden_Dissent View Post
Don't hate the game. Hate the players.
Such a failed assessment.

Blame the players for being upset about a dying game and leaving it because it is no longer fun to play.

Because it was all our fault that this game is nose diving in the first place, right?

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Rouge
05.17.2012 , 10:54 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
The game is a lot of fun when you're new to it. Playing the first time through on each faction is great, if you liked the BioWare games that it descended from.

I challenge the notion that we ought to be patient. We're paying for a service. If we're dissatisfied with that service, we should ask the service provider to fix it and expect a fix within a reasonable timeframe. (This would be easier if the service provider gave more definitive timeframes and specific information about fixes.) If we're still dissatisfied, either with the service or the provider's response, we should stop paying for the service.

That's what consumers should do.
The problem with people like you is that you think that one can easily and quickly "fix" a game that a million people claim to be unhappy one way or another. You usually compare the thing to "bad service" in some very different kind of business, where hundreds of people don't have to be involved for months so that fixes can be rolled out. MMOs need a lot of time to change and evolve, but dissatisfied people never give them that,
Think of this: If you will play a Jedi or a Sith, now you will never get to take your apprentice to fight with you in flashpoints, warzones or raids. You will never face together any of the big end-game bosses.

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Kamor
05.17.2012 , 10:54 AM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Rohgur View Post
Alright i am done with this post as my intentions were to give a renewed hope to a game that apparently everyone has some remorse for playing in the first place. My time spent playing this game obviously has a greater reflection than my overall gaming experience of 24 years. I dont need a level 50 in Star Wars to know the frustrations of playing an MMO where at the end game content level there is minimal interactions and very few things to do. Ive been there before on other games and it seems no matter how many times or ways i state that fact im still going to be treated as someone who is inexperienced regardless of any other factors.
Done with the thread or not you clearly do NOT PAY ATTENTION. The issues that the majority of those who have quit, going to quit, or just have a complaint about the game has very little to do with what there is to do. Yes that is a complaint and yes it is a problem, but the bigger picture of the issue is the simple fact that most of these major bugs should be fixed.

Not just the bugs either no, it is also the lack of communication with the community on THEIR WEBSITE. Even off their site you might find SOME news, but it is hardly relevant. There is no solving bugs and they have poor customer service beyond the likes I have ever seen. BTW their recent podcast was bragging about themselves, bashing the community, oh and thinking of ways to make the game so THEY the DEVELOPERS could enjoy it not their subscribers.
"Every man is guilty of the good he did not do"-Voltaire

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Blistrich
05.17.2012 , 10:55 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
Either way, once transfers/1.3 hits, I'm sure a lot of the negativity will subside.
Isn't that exactly what everyone said about 1.2?

That's the point the "haters" are trying to get across to you.

Stay eternally hopeful though. It may pay off some day.

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Celebrus
05.17.2012 , 10:55 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
Don't take it personally man. I've been playing for 6 months, had to reroll in order to keep playing with actual people and I still love this game and am mostly positive in all of my posts. Because of that positive attitude, I've already had a couple posters say out right that I'm now on their ignore list. Honestly, with the current negative state of the board right now, I'd be surprised if most people saw my posts at all.


Either way, once transfers/1.3 hits, I'm sure a lot of the negativity will subside.
You're right about one thing, there will certainly be less people complaining at the current rate of attrition that this game is suffering.

Nobody to whine means no whining.
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