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[Guide-Video] Shinarika 9 and Introduction to 23/1/17 and 13/28 "Arika" Hybrid

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[Guide-Video] Shinarika 9 and Introduction to 23/1/17 and 13/28 "Arika" Hybrid

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Xinika
05.14.2012 , 05:54 PM | #1
Youtube: www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3b0Ny6H7_k

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Ninth entry to the Shinarika PvP series that takes a whole new route. There are no standard 31/x/x specs in this video, only hybrids. Combining the aspects of Tutorial videos with Entertainment, the very video itself is a hybrid. Hope you enjoy and find the material useful. Stay tuned!

00:19-00:36 : 23/1/17 Introduction and Info
00:38-00:55 : 0/13/28 Introduction and Info
01:19-01:21 : Example 23/1/17 Spec
01:22-01:25 : Example 0/13/28 Spec
01:25-01:35 : 23/1/17 and 0/13/28 Rotations

Produced by PSI.
Edited by Shinarika.
Filmed by Shinarika.

0/13/28 "Arika": http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#601focRrrorcZhGbR.2
23/1/17 "KC-Balance Hybrid": http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#60...MZoZrfMozrsk.2

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23/1/17
This is an awesome spec and probably the one I am going to use for rateds. This or my own personal 13/28 Balance-Infil hybrid. Now this spec is awesome. Think of it as a more mobile Kinetic. You have the defensives of KC, but you have more mobility and burst damage. You also get insta-force lift.

The trade off is TK and Slow time. Both, of which, are excellent abilities on their own, but it is a fair trade. This spec is very supportive to the team and can pump some good burst damage. I highly recommend it to anyone who's serious about rated play.


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0/13/28
Messing around trying to find new ways to entertain myself with my Shadow... I suddenly came up with this spec out of nowhere. I remember seeing it on "paper" and thinking "Oh gosh, that spec would perform awesome if I think it works the way I want it to!". Well, what a surprise... this spec more than fulfilled my expectations, it surpassed it.

This is a very high-damage dealing spec that features a multiple arsenal of attacks to keep you going and keep you going strong. FiB and Breach, both high internal damage (Yes, this spec utilizes Shadow Technique!) along with the SS proc... this spec is just a pure armour-penetrating build.

On top of the high and consistent damage, the force management is great! That's the other part that surprised me. You have so many buttons to press yet you're not force starved entirely. Granted, you must monitor your force like you would as any spec. I'm still working around getting used to this spec but I absolutely love it. The burst literally requires little to no setup and you have the ability to just keep going.

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mikalandzelo
05.14.2012 , 06:58 PM | #2
The inf-balance hybrid looks really interesting. I once made up something really similar on paper, but never tried it out. Looks like its time to do so.

Good job btw.
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arcadean
05.14.2012 , 07:00 PM | #3
As always great video......youtube comment below

shini... for the roation on the 13/28 wouldnt it be better force management to ds x2 to get circling shadows proc then project fib, fb?

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Rmog
05.14.2012 , 07:17 PM | #4
Hey bud it's Nos/Crya, time for a new server! Come to Fatman

Good video!

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Xinika
05.14.2012 , 07:26 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Rmog View Post
Hey bud it's Nos/Crya, time for a new server! Come to Fatman

Good video!
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Xinika
05.14.2012 , 08:22 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by arcadean View Post
As always great video......youtube comment below

shini... for the roation on the 13/28 wouldnt it be better force management to ds x2 to get circling shadows proc then project fib, fb?
It's fine, but the good part about the 13/28 build is that you have flexibility. It doesn't hurt by using a project w/o the 2xc circling shadows.
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Tiresias
05.14.2012 , 08:59 PM | #7
Hey Shin. Love your videos as always. As usual I have a few questions for you:

On the 0/13/28 build do you miss not having access to Sever Force? I have been a (very) long time Kinetic player who has been fooling around with Balance, and I have to say that the ability to engage from 30m away and the utility the spec has when dealing with any melee and medium-range classes is a big benefit of the spec. It's hard to get a "feel" for a spec from just a video, so I'd like your take on it.

Also on the 0/13/28 spec, is there are reason you decided to take Force Suppression, Sharpened Mind, and Mental Scarring? I don't see where that spec is using much in the way of DoT effects (Shadow Technique over Force Technique, no Mind Crush proc, no Sever Force), so that seems like a lot of points wasted just to get the 30% critical damage boost on Force in Balance, which is itself a 15-second cooldown.

I took a page out of your playbook for my Kinetic spec and pulled a point out of Upheaval to take a single point in Infiltration Tactics... Quite an improvement. The ability to break out a "big hit" like that at the end of a TK Throw has caught several healers off-guard.

Unconfirmed rumor is that they have a buff planned for Shadow Balance in 1.3 since it hardly sees any use in PvP or PvE. It's nice to see some out-of-the-box thinking on the spec to make it viable in the meantime.

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ekimmak
05.14.2012 , 09:03 PM | #8
There have only been 2 cases where I wish I could change AC. One was when I accidentally clicked Guardian instead of Sentinel. THe other was when I realized I had no shadow or its counterpart.
*sigh*
Looks like fun, pretty sure I would enjoy it more than relevelling a sorceror duplicate.
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Xinika
05.14.2012 , 09:10 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Tiresias View Post
Hey Shin. Love your videos as always. As usual I have a few questions for you:

On the 0/13/28 build do you miss not having access to Sever Force? I have been a (very) long time Kinetic player who has been fooling around with Balance, and I have to say that the ability to engage from 30m away and the utility the spec has when dealing with any melee and medium-range classes is a big benefit of the spec. It's hard to get a "feel" for a spec from just a video, so I'd like your take on it.
No, I don't. The build has high uptime and consistent burst. It does not play like Balance. There's just a flow of having many buttons to press, all the time.

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Also on the 0/13/28 spec, is there are reason you decided to take Force Suppression, Sharpened Mind, and Mental Scarring? I don't see where that spec is using much in the way of DoT effects (Shadow Technique over Force Technique, no Mind Crush proc, no Sever Force), so that seems like a lot of points wasted just to get the 30% critical damage boost on Force in Balance, which is itself a 15-second cooldown.
It's worth it, trust me. There's no other way to really play the build without high internal damage.

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I took a page out of your playbook for my Kinetic spec and pulled a point out of Upheaval to take a single point in Infiltration Tactics... Quite an improvement. The ability to break out a "big hit" like that at the end of a TK Throw has caught several healers off-guard.
Indeed, most people don't see that burst coming from a KC.

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Unconfirmed rumor is that they have a buff planned for Shadow Balance in 1.3 since it hardly sees any use in PvP or PvE. It's nice to see some out-of-the-box thinking on the spec to make it viable in the meantime.
Where did you hear this?
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Tiresias
05.14.2012 , 10:00 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Xinika View Post
Where did you hear this?
I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

Alright, tired cliches aside, one of my close friends met with several developers at PAX East and discussed his feelings that Balance was a "Sage spec" and somewhat inferior to Infiltration for PvP and dramatically inferior to Infiltration for PvE.

Basically the conversation was "we know about the problem, and we would like to work on the spec, but Kinetic and Infiltration are more important for 1.2." They went on to imply that it's on the radar for the next major patch, but they gave no details.

Here's to hoping. I feel that it is a compelling and unique "melee caster" spec that deserves attention.