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NINJAS! We know who you are!


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Squaty
12.13.2011 , 11:20 AM | #1
Well... We will...


Hi guys and girls,

For those of you sitting at your computer thinking "What the **** have Ninjas got to do with Star Wars?" let me explain...

A Ninja/Loot Jawa is a player who takes loot to which he or she is not entitled.

So you could be in a Flashpoint and this really nice weapon drops which is super awesome for you. But... Whatís this...? "Random Loot Jawa receives super awesome weapon." So you find yourself thinking... "Well maybe he/she does need it." During the rest of the encounter you notice said Jawa isn't using the weapon. He/she's the right level for the item. He/she can use it. Why isn't... JAWAA! THE GUY OR GIRL IS A JAWA. That is the only reason.

Of course we can't say Loot Jawas will be rife in SW:TOR but if they are present and making a nuisance of themselves this is what we, as a community, do to stop them:

1.) Place them on your ignore list.
2.) With the others in the group tell the community who this Jawa is. (More than two sources to confirm he is a Loot Jawa.)

3.) The community in turn adds this Jawa to their ignore list. This stops the Jawa from grouping with them in the future.

It won't be too long until this Jawas' server reputation hits rock bottom; he/she canít group easily and overall will have wasted his/her time levelling their character...



This isn't fool proof but it certainly will make Loot Jawas think twice before engaging in their fetish.

Most of the older MMO community will already know this, but consider this a gentle reminder.

Peace!

Show some community spirit!
(Edit: For Jawas)

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Tachyonsaint
12.13.2011 , 11:51 AM | #2
Problem with this is soon my ignore list is full.

I'd much prefer the restrictions apply at the base of the need greed mechanic itself. If we are going to be stuck with this type of (IMO) inherently flawed loot system, I'd like to see the policing put into the system itself.

IE:
Unable to need the item if it is not for your class. Obviously mods are going to be a wrinkle in this.
If you need the item it's exclusive, bind to character on pickup, and worth 1 credit until equipped.
You are able to trade an item between players for either a limited time, or while in the instance, to allow for the whoops wrong button issue.
A graphical indicator on what choice your fellow players have chosen, save time reading chat logs.

That's all I can think of for now.
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Karactacus
12.13.2011 , 11:53 AM | #3
I think the community decided to label them "Loot Jawas" actually :-)

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deciousdark
12.13.2011 , 11:54 AM | #4
I know it was just the beta but I had a stupid Sith Warrior roll need on my Bounty Hunter chest peice in BT...was so annoying and since I was playing the healer for that group....I stopped healing him

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Vitaarn
12.13.2011 , 11:58 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Karactacus View Post
I think the community decided to label them "Loot Jawas" actually :-)
I love this! "Loot Jawas" lol
Im soo evil and twisted i make palpatine and the child snatcher from chitty chitty bang bang look like girl guides
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SnowHeart
12.13.2011 , 12:00 PM | #6
I like "Loot Jawa"; very fitting!

Don't forget to assume good faith in some cases. My beta experience with TOR was actually the first time I had ever encountered the need/greed mechanic (not a big MMO player) and, because I attached a negative connotation to "greed", I kept selecting "need" until I stopped to think about it and asked one of my subsequent groups. (For some reason I thought "greed" was sort of like an auction and you'd bid on it if you really wanted it... don't ask me what I was thinking, I'm not sure, but I definitely had it backwards and I wasn't trying to "steal" from my group.)

Nobody had said anything about it to me, but I do wish I could have gone back to them and said, "Oops, sorry about that." Most people probably know better than I did, so you're probably right, but it may be worth pointing it out to them and see if they're behavior changes before you /lootjawa them into oblivion. Just a thought.

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Xesha
12.13.2011 , 12:06 PM | #7
I would really like to see a system where items that bind to your character when you pick them up can be traded to other members of that group within 1-2 hours or so. It's a system that could make some Jawas to give the item to the one that had the best use for it, and it encourages being patient with other players.

Yes, a flaw of this would be that two people could roll on something and then give it to the other to increase their chances, but I don't see the issue with that since you play with people from your server, and as such there will be consequences to that behavior. Combined with a need/greed based on what classes actually can use I think it will be neat, since then you can also trade items to other players who may like it for their companion or whatever.
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GarrettPLC
12.13.2011 , 12:15 PM | #8
Loot Jawa needs to be the new official term.

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Tanaki
12.13.2011 , 12:33 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Squaty View Post
1.) Place them on your ignore list.
2.) With the others in the group tell the community who this ninja is. (More than two sources to confirm he is a ninja.)

3.) The community in turn adds this ninja to their ignore list. This stops the ninja from grouping with them in the future.

It won't be too long until this ninjas' server reputation hits rock bottom; he/she canít group easily and overall will have wasted his/her time levelling his character...
Whilst well meaning it's not very well thought out.

What do we do about the vindictive and the chaotic? Say I come to your server with a couple of friends and make up complaints about your activities. All of a sudden a sizeable chunk of your server thinks you are a nin-- I mean Loot jawa.

It's a good idea in principle but relies heavily on the very trust that was betrayed when the loot was jawa'd in the first place....

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DarthWalt
12.13.2011 , 04:22 PM | #10
there is no such thing as a ninja looter.


Sorry but the devs just dont care. They dint care in WoW they wont care here.


Rule # 1 of MMO. Ninja or be ninjaed.