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Finding a FP group is near impossible.

Mezla's Avatar

05.05.2012 , 07:25 PM | #11
Server population doesn't really matter. Even on new Oceanic servers that are full and have 200+ on fleet it is really hard to find a group. People just don't want to run HM FPs. Even normal FPs take way too long to form, considering the server pop.
One of the biggest problems with FP that they are complete waste of time. Effort to reward ratio is nowhere near reasonable.

Mayams's Avatar

05.05.2012 , 08:08 PM | #12
I mostly did my class quests and PvP'd to 50. Done very few FPs, most with guildies. Main problem was and is (and why I dont respond to LFG calls in chat) because, as somebody else mentioned, people leave at the drop of a hat and me and a guildie are standing there looking dumb in the middle of an instance. Most of my guild pretty much bailed before we even began to really discuss Ops.

I'm a tank who doesn't know the fights so obviously I need someone to tell me what to expect. People don't even want to go that far a lot of times. "Hey guys, never done this FP before", *so-and-so leaves group*. If we're lucky we can at least get the whole group to participate until we wipe once, if that occurs it's a garuantee we're done.

Of course we see enough of a PvP team bail in the event of a 2 - cap these days to effectively screw anyone who remains as well. At some point in the MMO community enough people began to feel they were above having to try and (perhaps because of the high skill level they percieve themselves to be at) any step that is not on the path to absolutely ROFLstomping the opposition or the content is the fault of others and they refuse to accept the penalty. That or they only want to be carried to the reward and a group that can't do that for them with ease isn't worth sticking with.

Either way, I don't really bother with PvE anymore and in WZs I realize that our team 2 - capping first is the decisive factor between victory or a loss. Add in dwindling pops and this game has become a free time filler only slightly more enthralling than watching T.V. Sadly the next MMO to come along with a measure of hype and lofty promises will take it's place and the vicous cycle continues...
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roblinb's Avatar

05.06.2012 , 03:07 AM | #13
Yea this is really dragging me down in this game. I am missing a lot of the FP's (only have completed Black Talon with the friend I play with because it was a 2-person dungeon) because there's nobody who wants to do them when you ask in /lfg. I'll be at the Imperial Fleet, and check who's on... lucky if there's 1 or 2 in my level category and usually they don't even answer my whisper. It really sucks missing out on content like this.

TalkingDinosaur's Avatar

05.06.2012 , 03:18 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Caffeinetank View Post
I play on Veela which is a medium-populated server. However, I have noticed as of two months ago that finding a group to do any FP (lowbie or HM) at any time (morning to peak times) has become pretty much impossible, especially from Pugging. My guild is in the higher-level ops and many of them just don't log on during the day. Those that do are normally pvping.

I'm more of a pve geared player, and have been both the leader as well as a joiner in pugs. Either the leader will get frustrated and call it, or people will start leaving after it's evident we will not find a healer (in most cases, since I'm a tank). Lately, it seems even some dps don't want to join a group!

I'm convinced we need server mergers and a cross-server LFG system. I have no idea how Veela is considered a medium-pop server when there are less than 150 people in fleet during peak times (oh, and my side has a roughly 2:1 ratio over the other side).

Something really needs to done, because what good is a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER online game if you're stuck doing solo daily quests?

P.S. I hoped this game would be a WoW-killer, I really did (we know now it won't), but recently, I resubscribed to WoW because I can go in there, find a group in a minute or less with their tool, get a goodie bag for tanking, and complete the instance in less than 40 minutes.
Truthfully people just don't want to talk to each other. And I blame WoW for this. They've made things so easy and automated what's the point in talking with someone so you can have someone to group up with? Bioware tried to get players to communicate and it worked to some extent, but what WoW has done has left a long-term mark on gaming that currently shows no sign of subsiding anytime soon.

Gimixes's Avatar

05.06.2012 , 03:18 AM | #15
Lol, and people want a x-server LFG. What you get is the same sort of people.
Impatient, rude, annoying etc

You know why people dont do HM FP. Because they want to zerge and multi pull FP's. But they cant and they risc to die that much.

When x-server comes and BW nerfes the whole game...then you will see lots of people. And what kind of people lmao.

hulkweazel's Avatar

05.06.2012 , 03:53 AM | #16
Under-50 flashpoints give very little exp. The daily somewhat makes up for this, but it's still not enough for the time spent. Gear is pretty good but you will outlevel it soon anyway. Considering the difficulties of finding a full group and finding a tank/healer since people usually level up as DPS spec, it's just not really worth it doing them.

For HM flashpoints, you get one Columi piece for four people. Doing one SM operation gives you 10 Columi for 8 people.

As others have said, there just isn't enough reason to do them.

tkinnunzero's Avatar

05.06.2012 , 07:00 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Gimixes View Post
When x-server comes and BW nerfes the whole game...then you will see lots of people. And what kind of people lmao.
Oh, I can't wait for that.

Because truthfully, I want to be one of those people too.

Dekai's Avatar

05.06.2012 , 12:38 PM | #18
This is sadly why one of my friends has left, and the other is thinking about going to Tera. I never really had these issues, since I raid and do things with my guild, so there's always a chance someone will come. So, to be nice, I rolled a character with them, on a heavy pop server, got to 50...

And it's true. Even as a tank, it's hard to find a healer. As a healer, it's hard to find a tank. Even using the LFG channel the server community has set up, it can take 3-4 hours to find either a tank or a healer, if ever.

And if my friends start to go, I have to as well. I generally only play a game to play with friends, if it cannot be done, no point in paying for a sub. Sure, doing HM/NM ops for 2 days a week is entertaining, but it really boils down to who you play with in the end.
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AidanLightwalker's Avatar

05.06.2012 , 01:58 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Wallsie View Post
It's impossible to put a group together when you only have 5-8 people on your fleet and 30 across the entire server. Just because you were willing to re-roll on a high pop server or got lucky enough to start on one doesn't mean everyone else is in the same boat. I have 2 50s, a 45, a 40, a 26 and a 21 currently and re-rolling is not an option. Due to the low population issues, I've had to take most crafting professions because I can't buy stuff on the GTN. I'll wait for my free transfers and if I don't get them for all my characters I'm a ghost.
I didnt re roll on a new server. I play on wound and have done so since day 1. Wound doesn't have a ton of people running around either and yet I manage to make it happen. People who know my toon are usually repeat runnersthey know that I know the fights and very patient with other players who might be new. It's not impossible.
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Sinaed's Avatar

05.06.2012 , 02:00 PM | #20
I'm pretty sure we have these things called guilds
"We chew and spit you out
We laugh, you scream and shout
All flee, with fear you run
You'll know just where we come from"