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Juggernaut or marauder?

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Juggernaut or marauder?

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Anysao
05.04.2012 , 11:07 AM | #1
Hi, I'm a level 50 assassin and 48 (finished story) guardian.
Via legacy, my guardian is having a warrior son.

I can't decide between marauder or jug. I've heard positivity and negativity towards both.
Leaning to maur, but idk.

And what spec?
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bright_ephemera
05.04.2012 , 11:15 AM | #2
I've played Guardian (Jugg mirror) and Marauder to 50, and I enjoyed Marauder more.

Downsides:

- Less survivability: medium armor, fewer defensive cooldowns
- No flexibility in roles: congratulations, you're DPS.
- Noticeable complexity in the combat priority list
- you're paying to keep two sabers upgraded all game

Upsides:

- Awesome, dynamic, noticeable complexity in the combat priority list
- Secondary resources and stacking/unstacking buffs/debuffs keep you on your toes
- It just looks awesome
- Annihilation Marauders get the fastest interrupt in the game (6s)
- Bloodthirst, that level 50 ability that buffs your group with a 15% damage bonus for 15 seconds, is just sexy.

I loved Annihilation. It has self-heals that give you a little combat flexibility; you're not necessarily married to your healer. Dynamic, complex, with a top-tier nuke that feels great every time.
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Rohns
05.04.2012 , 12:27 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by bright_ephemera View Post
I've played Guardian (Jugg mirror) and Marauder to 50, and I enjoyed Marauder more.

Downsides:

- Less survivability: medium armor, fewer defensive cooldowns
- No flexibility in roles: congratulations, you're DPS.
- Noticeable complexity in the combat priority list
- you're paying to keep two sabers upgraded all game

Upsides:

- Awesome, dynamic, noticeable complexity in the combat priority list
- Secondary resources and stacking/unstacking buffs/debuffs keep you on your toes
- It just looks awesome
- Annihilation Marauders get the fastest interrupt in the game (6s)
- Bloodthirst, that level 50 ability that buffs your group with a 15% damage bonus for 15 seconds, is just sexy.

I loved Annihilation. It has self-heals that give you a little combat flexibility; you're not necessarily married to your healer. Dynamic, complex, with a top-tier nuke that feels great every time.
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Anysao
05.04.2012 , 01:36 PM | #4
That's a lot of good positivity about marauder! Very convincing, and interesting.

I would like to hear both sides though.

My primary problem is that I always feel like I owe something; like being a dps isn't a good thing...
So I always tanked, so I help the community. Wish I could try healing for once.

Any other comments on which AC?
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Irishpierre
05.04.2012 , 05:20 PM | #5
I've played Juggernaut until about 33 then switched over to Marauder (who's now 32)

Truly depends on your playstyle. I loved Juggernaut. Pre 1.2, I've taken in as high as 11 medals with over 70k protection. If you're feel is more defensive and group support, I'd suggest Juggernaut.

If you enjoy pommeling through bosses and other players alike, I suggest Marauder.

For Marauder, I've switched back and forth between Carnage and Annihilation. I'm Carnage now, since it's simply easier to level with (Kill things faster with more attacks, less DoTs.) While Annihilation has the DoT that's also a HoT to yourself.

Eventually, I'll try both specs at 50 and see which I like more, but as for right now and leveling, Carnage for me.

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Anysao
05.04.2012 , 05:29 PM | #6
Eh, that helps a bit. But ive already got a GUARDIAN, so I know what juggernaut is like...

Marauder sounds like fun, but sheer DPS could be a bore.. But also easier to play. And your tank companion won't be for awhile. And broonmark is ugly. And a muppet.
See my point? I can't decide. Juggernaut will be too familiar, and marauder will be tough without a good tank. (healer early, though)

Decide for me!
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Deviltreh
05.04.2012 , 07:37 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by bright_ephemera View Post
I've played Guardian (Jugg mirror) and Marauder to 50, and I enjoyed Marauder more.

Downsides:

- Less survivability: medium armor, fewer defensive cooldowns
- No flexibility in roles: congratulations, you're DPS.
- Noticeable complexity in the combat priority list
- you're paying to keep two sabers upgraded all game

Upsides:

- Awesome, dynamic, noticeable complexity in the combat priority list
- Secondary resources and stacking/unstacking buffs/debuffs keep you on your toes
- It just looks awesome
- Annihilation Marauders get the fastest interrupt in the game (6s)
- Bloodthirst, that level 50 ability that buffs your group with a 15% damage bonus for 15 seconds, is just sexy.

I loved Annihilation. It has self-heals that give you a little combat flexibility; you're not necessarily married to your healer. Dynamic, complex, with a top-tier nuke that feels great every time.
Annihilation Marauder has less survivability then DPS Juggernaut? OLOLOLO DD

Annihilation Marauder has the best survivability of DPS specs...
The bravery of being out of range...

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Irishpierre
05.04.2012 , 07:58 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Anysao View Post
Eh, that helps a bit. But ive already got a GUARDIAN, so I know what juggernaut is like...

Marauder sounds like fun, but sheer DPS could be a bore.. But also easier to play. And your tank companion won't be for awhile. And broonmark is ugly. And a muppet.
See my point? I can't decide. Juggernaut will be too familiar, and marauder will be tough without a good tank. (healer early, though)

Decide for me!
Trust me, for PVE, you'll be MORE than fine with just using Quinn. When you get Jaessa, you can decide to switch and STILL be perfectly okay. You're killing things so fast, Quinn just keeps you above half health. Only time you'll need to give an effort is when you take on 2 elite mobs at the same time. And even then, not that much of an effort.

The tricky part is your combat rotation in PVP, especially when you're NOT 50, since every few levels you're incorporating a new attack here and there. Not to mention various enemies and various ways to either avoid them, or kill them.

Overall, chose Marauder, especially if you have a Guardian.

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bright_ephemera
05.04.2012 , 09:32 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Deviltreh View Post
Annihilation Marauder has less survivability then DPS Juggernaut? OLOLOLO DD

Annihilation Marauder has the best survivability of DPS specs...
Crud, I've been doing it wrong XD

Marauder does get a lot of dirty emergency tricks. Jugg get some mad hot damage mitigation and also Force Push and Backhand as ways to get some breathing space.
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Hopsinwhat
05.04.2012 , 11:32 PM | #10
Marauder! Annihilation is awesome with its self heals. Plus Quinn, I am an unstoppable killing machine!