Undying Rage: The Final Word

I think both Undying Rage and Force Shroud should be purely defensive abilities. When either is popped the damage output should be at least HALVED.

This would do many things to help bring some balance.

1. People would stop complaining about marauders because marauders would not go into their blending, god mode, where you can't do $#!^ to them but they wreak havoc across the battlefield.

2. It would help balance Tankassins, so people would stop complaining about them. Force Shroud also lasts 5 seconds, and allows for some damage to be put out during the period, although not nearly as much as a marauder can in the same time.

Both abilities would be used defensively, as probably intended -- marauders as an escape tool, and sins as a tanking tool for carrying the ball etc... I'm sure both these changes could be coded to affect PvP only if necessary.

3. Deception sins remain largely unaffected as the FS is only 3 seconds long and mostly used in conjunction with vanish every couple of minutes.

you have no understanding of the marauder class at all by what you say. just so you know the class build you describe above would be a 31/31/31 build. which if im not mistaken - is impossible.

the we have 3 10m attack. that all marauders get:
our 'execute' which is only useable at 30%
our healing debuff throw about as much damage as a basic attack
our force scream - which unless you are a carnage build would hardly ever get used because of the rage cost.

if you are rage spec you get Obliterate - And a 31point 10m force attack.
if you are annhilation you get bleeds - 31 point attack is 4m range - deadly saber(the bleedbuff) causes the next 3 melee attacks to apply a bleed.
if carnage - 31 point ability is again a 4m range melee attack.

TLR - you don't know the class at all - at least look at a skill tree from a spec builder before you just make thing up

Well imagine if you were tank specced and you had more defensive CD's than you currently have, it could throw off balance on pve quite a lot and throw off the balance of PT tanks in pvp quite a lot too.

You have Electro Dart, it breaks on damage? http://www.torhead.com/ability/9GX16Xs/electro-dart No it doesn't it'd be labelled as so like Intimidating Roar http://www.torhead.com/ability/3UOGX...imidating-roar !!!

Seriously if these forums weren't so well moderated i'd call you so many names.

Really? Yes I know your skill tree very well, its all I see in warzones. Yes you cant spec everything, but the ONE universal is YOUR DAMAGE IS EXCELLENT, regardless of spec. Your damage output is your defense and you also happen to have the best DCD (all on shorter CDs than my CC/Stuns). tell me again I don't know, but before you do tell us about your friendly leap too.. Range is an illusion in this game, so don't try to say you don't have a way to eliminate it...

Mara has intercede now too?

OUR DAMAGE IS SUPPOSED TO BE EXCELLENT, SO IS SNIPERS!!!! regardless of spec.

Both abilities are fine.

Do you have a problem getting in Melee range?

No they're not.

I play a tankassin and I know it's not. UR is in the same boat, it's just difficult to admit your class needs an adjustment.

Mara has intercede now too?

OUR DAMAGE IS SUPPOSED TO BE EXCELLENT, SO IS SNIPERS!!!! regardless of spec.

No but there also never seems to be a problem with kiting either, which isn't my fault at all there.




Yeah i play a tankassin too... they're both fine.

So is every single other dps specced tree. Quit acting like you deserve everything. Every other dps tree loses their defensive cooldowns by speccing for more damage. You get both, Quit whining and just wake up. Your damage is great and you have tank cooldowns. NO OTHER TREE CAN DO THAT!

The closest in damage to you are snipers and powertechs. Both have significantly less cooldowns, and no 5 second immunitiy.