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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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Evangelist
05.08.2012 , 07:27 AM | #921
Quote: Originally Posted by mothermoy View Post
The biggest gripe really isn't community...to me that's crap. You have a chance to meet more people cross server then you do in your server. The biggest gripe is it takes away the communities ability to police itself in its groups. Say bob is a huge troll. always pulls wrong stuff, gets team wiped over and over, generally just doesn't give a rip. In the system now, the community has the ability to just not invite him to a group. He learns and either changes or leaves. LFG tool basically allows bob to troll as much as he wants and just reque up. that gripe i can definitely understand.
That actually is "community", since Bob can be a jerk without reprecussion he and other like him can behave in whatver manner they like which has a negative impact on the community. Additionally how many of those people you meet that are on another server do you actually bother to get to know? You can't arrange to run with them again, and its doubtful you'll ever get thrown together in a random group again. Essentially they become "Warm body #5674" and you never worry about building a friends list or even your own rep since you can just fill your groups with random warm bodies until you've beat the FP or Op. This degrades the social aspect of the community as surely as the rampant Bobs.

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chaosdefined
05.08.2012 , 07:31 AM | #922
Quote: Originally Posted by Evangelist View Post
That actually is "community", since Bob can be a jerk without reprecussion he and other like him can behave in whatver manner they like which has a negative impact on the community. Additionally how many of those people you meet that are on another server do you actually bother to get to know? You can't arrange to run with them again, and its doubtful you'll ever get thrown together in a random group again. Essentially they become "Warm body #5674" and you never worry about building a friends list or even your own rep since you can just fill your groups with random warm bodies until you've beat the FP or Op. This degrades the social aspect of the community as surely as the rampant Bobs.
Once again, community is different to everyone. Your idea of a utopean community no longer exists in modern day MMO's because the playerbase is far too large to encompass any type of small group community feelings. That is why there are Guilds.

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Valkirus
05.08.2012 , 08:03 AM | #923
Quote: Originally Posted by Evangelist View Post
That actually is "community", since Bob can be a jerk without reprecussion he and other like him can behave in whatver manner they like which has a negative impact on the community. Additionally how many of those people you meet that are on another server do you actually bother to get to know? You can't arrange to run with them again, and its doubtful you'll ever get thrown together in a random group again. Essentially they become "Warm body #5674" and you never worry about building a friends list or even your own rep since you can just fill your groups with random warm bodies until you've beat the FP or Op. This degrades the social aspect of the community as surely as the rampant Bobs.
Actually it is possible to run with players from your own server in a cross server LFG run. That is how we added a couple new members to our guild in WoW in fact. And the jerks? You will allways have them. Just like crooks, no matter what..there will allways be those. Easy to deal with. Place them on ignore and move on.
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hijaxhfx
05.08.2012 , 08:51 AM | #924
LFG Tool is gonna be a great addition to the game, and is so needed right now as there are way too many servers, with low pop's.

Why should i have to sit around the fleet or even have to be in some guild to raid. i don't have time to make plans for one night or another, does this mean that i should not be able to see and play end game content? to each their own,if you wanna be in a guild and have that tight community feeling that's your right. you don't have to use the lfg tool at all and it wont effect what your doing now one bit. but it will help a lot of people.
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ferroz
05.08.2012 , 09:21 AM | #925
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
And face the facts, you don't use it because you don't want to.
Indeed, and people don't want to because it's useless.

the fact that the current lfg tool is useless for some people does not not mean that SWTOR is "not the game for them" ... it just means that the current lfg tool is useless...

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Skirata_Kal
05.08.2012 , 09:24 AM | #926
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
Being hand held tends to do this but I have a feeling a lot of players don't even know that an LFG tool does exist right now
We know it exists (which you very well know) and we've used it (which you also by now know very well) and it has failed (again as you very well know).
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Soul_of_Flames
05.08.2012 , 09:26 AM | #927
People, for the most part, want to group with people in their own server. Sure there may be some people who don't care, but I think the majority falls into the former category. A cross server LFG tool wouldn't really appeal to these people since the people they would be playing with would, in all probability, never be seen or heard from again.

So what about a LFG tool that works only in your own server? Well that is redundant because if people in your server don't want to group with you then why would their minds change just because there is a grouping tool?

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chaosdefined
05.08.2012 , 09:51 AM | #928
Quote: Originally Posted by Soul_of_Flames View Post
People, for the most part, want to group with people in their own server. Sure there may be some people who don't care, but I think the majority falls into the former category. A cross server LFG tool wouldn't really appeal to these people since the people they would be playing with would, in all probability, never be seen or heard from again.

So what about a LFG tool that works only in your own server? Well that is redundant because if people in your server don't want to group with you then why would their minds change just because there is a grouping tool?
um...so yeah welcome to the forums, guessing you haven't checked the site at all or read anything about the upcoming features...but a couple of points:

A) There already is a Same Server LFG tool coming out in a couple of months or so.
B) You can't comment on what the majority want because it's impossible for any player to know that for sure.

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Jederix
05.08.2012 , 10:03 AM | #929
Quote: Originally Posted by Soul_of_Flames View Post
People, for the most part, want to group with people in their own server. Sure there may be some people who don't care, but I think the majority falls into the former category. A cross server LFG tool wouldn't really appeal to these people since the people they would be playing with would, in all probability, never be seen or heard from again.

So what about a LFG tool that works only in your own server? Well that is redundant because if people in your server don't want to group with you then why would their minds change just because there is a grouping tool?
People want to group to run Flashpoints. It doesn't matter where the people come from.
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JeramieCrowe
05.08.2012 , 10:15 PM | #930
LFG tool with an X-server toggle, people.

Don't know why we're still arguing when we should be teaming up now to ask BioWare for it. The community is split enough on this for it to work. No need to be afraid that too many people would toggle X-server "OFF" and you won't get a group.
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