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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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Vlaxitov
05.06.2012 , 09:16 AM | #831
Quote: Originally Posted by Jaxarale View Post
I love passive aggressive attacks like that... takes me back to Psychology 110 in college! Lets see, we were taught that if you take this type of P/A attack and turn a single key word 180 degrees you too can make the same argument but in the reverse... lets try.

People have already explained why cross-server group finder is great on the forums.
For reasonable people with common sense, they will understand it.
For unreasonable people who don't listen to anyone but themselves, no amount of "explaining" will convince them.

I win?
This is the way alot of people debate today. The poster I quoted accuses someone of the exact behavior he imediately proceeds to engage in. Hes even all freudian slip with it.

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stormie_sarge
05.06.2012 , 09:37 AM | #832
well why dont we throw a comprimise and allow a cross planet group chat and inpliment a level approriate LFG tool for the non hard mode flashpoints?

I still think there needs to be something that would allow players to get together more then just clicking the LFG tool once you hit 50.

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Vlaxitov
05.06.2012 , 09:45 AM | #833
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
A exaggeration is that. No need to go into details. :P
I see what you did there, another accusation you can't substantiate. :P

Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
I enjoy being able to log on and do some end game content in a timely manner.
Because hardmode dungeons are endgame. Either that or you must already assume that such a tool will apply to raids as well, just like WoW!

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Yes, content is made easier for casual gamers because they donot want to spend hours wiping on content and still not get it done. But the options to make content more challenging for those who want it is still there.
Why do you relate "casual" with bad at a game? Seperate difficulty settings in mmos is like holding chess tournaments for people with a confirmed lower IQ.

Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
Yes...game companies do need to make profits and yes..that is thier main objective in creating a game. Nothing wrong with that. And if they make a game which is fun and long lasting enjoyment for many..they will make money. Again nothing wrong with that. Games are made to give players a fun experence.
I cannot have the confidence that any company will make a good game that gives me lasting enjoyment when their passion for money clearly excedes their passion for gaming.

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chaosdefined
05.06.2012 , 09:48 AM | #834
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaxitov View Post
I cannot have the confidence that any company will make a good game that gives me lasting enjoyment when their passion for money clearly excedes their passion for gaming.
You're in for a hard reality check then.

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Mallorik
05.06.2012 , 10:01 AM | #835
I guess i just have to keep repeating this until the slow people start to catch on.

You need 8 people to do everything in this game, that killed your precious community,nothing else will or can kill a community in swtor because it never had one and never will have one. Bioware are showing their extreme ignorance on this subject, if they listen to the vocal minority of people who mistakenly blame an lfg tool for crappy mmo communities and not the new mmo playerbase they will drive this game straight into the ground.

People dont quit mmos because theres an lfg tool available that YOU DONT HAVE TO USE.

Many people quit mmos because they find it too hard to get groups.

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chaosdefined
05.06.2012 , 10:09 AM | #836
Why were you aiming that at me? I'm already Pro Cross Server LFG because it opens up the game into truly becoming an MMO.
I was just stating that to the poster I had quoted because the hard truth is a company values profit over gameplay. Somewhere down the line someone will have a passion for gaming sure, but at the top of the ladder, the guys who call the shots have no interest in gaming, they just want to see their product bring in the most money no matter what.

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Mallorik
05.06.2012 , 10:14 AM | #837
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
Why were you aiming that at me? I'm already Pro Cross Server LFG because it opens up the game into truly becoming an MMO.
I was just stating that to the poster I had quoted because the hard truth is a company values profit over gameplay. Somewhere down the line someone will have a passion for gaming sure, but at the top of the ladder, the guys who call the shots have no interest in gaming, they just want to see their product bring in the most money no matter what.
LOL sorry i wasnt aiming it at you, i hit quote instead of reply.

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Jaxarale
05.06.2012 , 10:18 AM | #838
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They never said it about LFG same server as they inputted a system from day one.
Sorry, i forgot the word "automated" lfg... I think you know what I meant, and they did say they would not do a lfg queue... splitting hairs is fun isnt it?

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The only thing they have gone back on what they said was X-server PVP.
Combat logs would like to have a word with you, as would the lfg queue incoming in 1.3...

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But yet you sill didnt answer why you seem to skip over the reasons stated by many in this thread, and the devs. Calling the reasons lies or made up. ... Meh
Huh? I never said peoples opinions were lies... I said they do not matter because the company has to make money... people and devs can say all they want... it means nothing when EA cracks the whip...

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chaosdefined
05.06.2012 , 10:22 AM | #839
Quote: Originally Posted by Mallorik View Post
LOL sorry i wasnt aiming it at you, i hit quote instead of reply.
Ah ok cool, had me confused there

But no I totally agree with you. The problem is everyone has a different opinion of what a community is. To me it's my Guild, they are who I interact with most ingame. But some people here have this dream of a utopian community that just does not exist in current MMO's because the game populace is just far too large and faceless to support it. They put this idea on a pedestal and worship it without being open to reason or difference of opinion, and forcing their beliefs down everyone elses throats. They use it to hinder the development of the game and others end up suffering because they believe that this paradise community is attainable.
Hard truth is, it's not.

There was absolutely nothing stopping people creating these amazing communities in other games with Cross-Server LFG. Nothing. They just didn't do it. People have a hard time accepting that the majority of players just aren't that bothered about server community, they just want to play a game with friends.

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Skidrowbro
05.06.2012 , 10:22 AM | #840
Lol, if you level'd from 1-50 and haven't made at least 7 other friends, the problem is you, not the game.