Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

Because some players keep coming up with the same rational for not having one. I donot see any difference here on both sides. Not saying any is wrong if they disagree with me on wanting a cross server tool, but I will defend why I think it is a good thing for this game. And we are getting a same server LFG tool , not a cross server one. So it needs to continue to be stressed why we need a cross server one. And I will. Only up to when my sub runs out and one is not added..will I "move on."

Not really. It works for me all the time. Maybe people just donèt like you and have you on ignore. And juding by the many posts of rage in this thread I can understand why they arenèt getting groups

Yup, still subbed. I guess you que into LFD solo most of the time. I'm usually with friends and Guildies so I don't encounter that problem. In fact, due to my ignorance of your example, I've never experienced that problem at all. I can't imagine people always asking their friend "hey, can you que in with me and go afk again?" "Oh sure, I love going AFK for you." The question is, are you using a common problem as an example or a loophole that NO ONE USES.

I have for over 7 yrs and still do. And what you are refering to is not very common. I rarely have those issues. WoW forums, like this one too is full of exaggerations. 90+% of my cross server LFG runs are ran without any major hiccups. Does crap happen like you said...yeah...but not very often. One thing which helps me is I use the "ignore player" feature when I come across jerks. It does help to weed out the number of them you may get qued up with in a group. Because it will never group you again with anyone on your ignore list and it is account wide.

Are you trying to bait me into "offending" you? I know how much you love that report button. I'm sure traveling the Galaxy to find players works great for you. Unfortunately time is money for me and others. I got better things to do than play a 10 year old MMO.

thought this game was about story... thought thats what most bioware games kinda go for... add LFG may as well remove class quests... and just make its so you go planet to planet based on level if you wanna quest... because hell in WoW, i roll tank or heals... queued til 80 or 85... and didnt care about questing because gear was better and leveling was faster that way... community? it does exist if you go to a large enough server where theres stuff always happening go to the server forums the large servers all have names especially in PvP that eachother all know well. I'd rather quest with a story rather than spam LFG and wait 5 minutes for the queue to pop and do the same thing ive been doing all night.

Oh right, WoW, that game is still alive, you want a storyless game with a LFG/LFR system with no community and easy leveling, just go play that stop tryin to convert something that isn't into that... add a channel thats global and in it can only be said LFG or GLF, flashpoint and OP names and tank, heals or dps. no other words will be permitted Add a listing system you can add yourself to, will show your spec, level, class, where you currently are and what FP/OP you're looking for... cross server not needed, transfers... very much needed, be them free or paid, implement them sooner rather than later!

Not trying to bait you into anything, just telling you the options that are there such as re-rolling temporary, but I guess true MMORPG's aren't for you. Good luck in your next big thing.

Why do you keep being aggressive? So far you've said;

Stop making crap up;
Have YOU honestly played WoW
The question is ........ that NO ONE USES.

There is no need to use capitals to try and make it look like I am not giving valid concerns, cool down.

I can say that yes I tended to join solo, not that that makes much difference, and yes I have on numerous (no where near the majority of times) had a person go AFK at the beginning then have a douche afterwards that we could not kick.

There is another thread on the next page where a blue tells the OP that they have kick protection to stop people from being constantly kicked and someone talking about a 4 hour wait to kick time. I didn't read past the first page.

Of course a friend wouldn't group, enter, then go AFK, unless they were happy to help you be a douche, people do ... especially when they get bored.

The point is a douche will always be a douche and they will use the tools they have available to enjoy upsetting people. LFG is just another tool that they can use and whilst it is within server they can be quickly isolated but with cross server you are open to all of them. Blizzard have been dealing with this issue since LFG went live and it is still not in an acceptable state (in my opinion). It's a matter of opinion as to whether the advantages of such a system offset the downside. Mine is that it doesn't and as such I am against such a tool - there are other reasons that I and others have already said.

I have no doubt at some stage in the future a cross server LFG will be implemented when Bioware decide that it makes more economical sense to do so, however I hope that this is a long way off.

Sorry, but this has not been MY experience. I have never once had someone join mid-dungeon and be happy about it. I have also had many, many groups simply break up after the tank or healer drops because they have become frustrated with the fact that they were waiting 3 hours for a group and now have to wait 2-3 more for a replacement. I have been in very, very, VERY few groups willing to even consider kicking a tank or healer no matter how ill-behaved because it would take hours to get another.

I would like to see a same server LFG tool. I see no benefit whatsoever to a cross-server one that out weighs the negative experiences I have had. Those negative experiences were far, FAR more numerous than positive. It was to the point that if I had not been in a guild I would never have been able to do most of the higher level heroics.

I was rather appalled to find that SWTOR does not have a single server wide chat channel. The "General" and "Trade" channels really should be server wide with a separate "Local" channel for each zone. Incidently "server wide" needs to include ships and instances. Giving us at least one server wide chat channel would itself help with grouping.

Unfortunately none of these suggestions address the biggest issue with finding groups even on a high population server - there are more DPS players than tanks or healers. Having a way to dual spec might help alleviate some of this, though I am not sure it would help much. Until there is a way to get away from the absolute need to have a tank and a healer in a group there will always be grouping issues.

Waited for 3 hrs? I call that a far fetched exaggeration. Even back before they added the cross server LFG tool, I never remember waiting over maybe a hour at the most. Now, in Cata , the average wait time for a dps for a random 5 man heroic is 10 - 20 mins and in the LFR is maybe 15 - 20 mins as dps. I know..I just did one LFR ( raid ) run this evening with some guildies and we were in que and done with the run in about 1 hour..all as dps. This was'nt a abnormal fast time, but very typical of the time it takes.

And I have had several occasions when a player would join a run I was in which was on the last boss and would say, " nice! fast VP's." .