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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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Jaxarale
05.03.2012 , 02:47 PM | #631
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Yup, I was saying pre-early access that the first time Bioware adds simplicity to this game that I am leaving. If I wanted easy in an MMO, I would go back to WoW.
Bye bye...

Can I have your stuff?

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DarthTHC
05.03.2012 , 02:47 PM | #632
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
Sorry, I won't hold your hand.

And judging by your attitude here on these forums, it's pretty easy to figure out why you aren't getting groups.

Hint: Try being nice to other players and they might remove you from their ignore list
Please add me to your ignore list. It would be the first time for me ever to be on one!

You haven't a clue whether or not I'm getting groups. You haven't a clue how successful those groups might or might not be, if and when I'm getting them.

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Kemosobe
05.03.2012 , 02:49 PM | #633
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
That's exactly what I said I would do.

And if you had read further or do some thinking about it, you would also see that such a move, on a large scale, is very bad for this game.

If this game fails to implement features that the majority of the MMO audience expects, it will never be more than a niche player. It will be SWG all over again. Or I suppose they could innovate, but if the best they have is voiceovers, that's not going to cut it.

It does disappoint me. Except for the tedium of finding a group, I love this game. I'd love to keep paying to play. I just won't pay to wait.
Funny how you bring up SWG seeing as everyone loved it before they nerfed the crap out of it to appeal to the WoW crowd. Just like this game, everyone still playing it loves it and will leave once they start catering to the wow crowd. Simply because an MMO does not have 300 million players does not at all mean it is a bad game. If that were true, then WoW was a crap game up until Wrath. And every other MMO ever released was complete garbage because they were only catering to the crowd they wanted instead of every single man, woman, and child on the planet.
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Curious how many would stand in the street staring down an oncoming garbage truck because they don't have DBM telling them to get out of the way.
Quote: Originally Posted by KROSSDARK View Post
Yeah I feel sorry for the devs. The new breed of gamers are so %$$#&^%

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Skirata_Kal
05.03.2012 , 02:49 PM | #634
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
Read that far and stopped caring. If you simply choose not to live without it, then go back to an MMO that has it and stop complaining that this MMO needs to conform to be a replica of every other MMO on the market simply for your sake of living.
You sure love mischaracterizing everyone you disagree with lol. No one is asking for ToR to become a copy of WoW or any other game. If it did become an exact copy then your advice to go to those games would be good (in fact I'd have done so without even posting a thing on this forum). Some MMO's have done some good things though and this thread is about a tool that did a great deal of good when added to to another MMO. Requesting that tool in this game is not the same as asking for this game to become a clone of another MMO (of course you know that, you're just trolling, but it's still fun lol). If you have the opinion that the tool didn't do good in other MMO's then you are certainly entitled to your opinion at which point we should just simply agree to disagree at this point (and yes, I know that's not happening lol).
Forum troll, former fanboy, later a "hater", recent returnee

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Skidrowbro
05.03.2012 , 02:50 PM | #635
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
You haven't a clue whether or not I'm getting groups.
Except you've been arguing the fact that you aren't getting groups

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DarthTHC
05.03.2012 , 02:52 PM | #636
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
Funny how you bring up SWG seeing as everyone loved it before they nerfed the crap out of it to appeal to the WoW crowd. Just like this game, everyone still playing it loves it and will leave once they start catering to the wow crowd. Simply because an MMO does not have 300 million players does not at all mean it is a bad game. If that were true, then WoW was a crap game up until Wrath. And every other MMO ever released was complete garbage because they were only catering to the crowd they wanted instead of every single man, woman, and child on the planet.
I just don't see how a tool that eliminates tedium... in a game... can possibly damage the game.

"Hey, they changed this red light by my house to be 60 seconds long instead of 120 seconds. But I hate that, so I'm going to sit there through an extra 60 seconds of green light to keep it REAL." *brofist*

Perhaps I lack logic or imagination?

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DarthTHC
05.03.2012 , 02:53 PM | #637
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
Except you've been arguing the fact that you aren't getting groups
No. I'm arguing the fact that I'm spending more time waiting to get into groups than doing group content.

I have posted several examples in this thread of times I've been in groups.

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Skidrowbro
05.03.2012 , 02:53 PM | #638
Quote: Originally Posted by Skirata_Kal View Post
You sure love mischaracterizing everyone you disagree with lol. No one is asking for ToR to become a copy of WoW or any other game. If it did become an exact copy then your advice to go to those games would be good (in fact I'd have done so without even posting a thing on this forum). Some MMO's have done some good things though and this thread is about a tool that did a great deal of good when added to to another MMO. Requesting that tool in this game is not the same as asking for this game to become a clone of another MMO (of course you know that, you're just trolling, but it's still fun lol). If you have the opinion that the tool didn't do good in other MMO's then you are certainly entitled to your opinion at which point we should just simply agree to disagree at this point (and yes, I know that's not happening lol).
You say it did wonderrs. I disagree. The dungeons and raids that I enjoyed doing became boring AOE fests because the new wave on none mmorpg players couldn't handle group concepts. All the challenge was ripped out of WoW just so they could have what? 10 millions subs. 10 millions screaming 14 year old girls love Justin Bieber. You gonna go out and buy all his albums?

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Kemosobe
05.03.2012 , 03:00 PM | #639
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
I just don't see how a tool that eliminates tedium... in a game... can possibly damage the game.

"Hey, they changed this red light by my house to be 60 seconds long instead of 120 seconds. But I hate that, so I'm going to sit there through an extra 60 seconds of green light to keep it REAL." *brofist*

Perhaps I lack logic or imagination?
You lack logic in understanding that there already is a LFG tool in the game and refuse to accept that, if people were to actually start using it, the game would not be "tedious" as you claim it to be. You do not need to be paired up with every single other person in the game in order to find groups, and all this does is destroy communities.

A much more accurate example is that you want to have a neighborhood party, but not a lot of people in your neighborhood can do it at the time you want, so you call in people from outside your neighborhood simply so you can have your party when you want to have it. Where is the neighborhood community in a get together that doesn't involve the neighborhood? If you do not like your neighbors and want them to be more active, are you going to run around screaming that they need to change or move to a better neighborhood?
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Curious how many would stand in the street staring down an oncoming garbage truck because they don't have DBM telling them to get out of the way.
Quote: Originally Posted by KROSSDARK View Post
Yeah I feel sorry for the devs. The new breed of gamers are so %$$#&^%

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Jaxarale
05.03.2012 , 03:04 PM | #640
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I just don't see how a tool that eliminates tedium... in a game... can possibly damage the game.
It cant...
It never has...
It never will...

They are now just arguing for the sake of arguing...

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You lack logic in understanding that there already is a LFG tool in the game and refuse to accept that, if people were to actually start using it, the game would not be "tedious" as you claim it to be.
You seem to lack the logic that there is already an automated LFG coming in 1.3... you keep on and keep on running this same exact thing through the wash... IT DOESNT MATTER.. the current LFG is being scrapped!!! Get it? Got it? Good!

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You do not need to be paired up with every single other person in the game in order to find groups, and all this does is destroy communities.
Again... no proof whatsoever of this claim anywhere at all... ever.

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You say it did wonderrs. I disagree.
The company that put out the game and is making billions a year thinks it did wonders too... your disagreement means nothing in the big picture.