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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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DarthTHC
05.03.2012 , 02:33 PM | #621
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
And again, it is only tedious because you and other people are making it tedious by not using the LFG tool that is already in the game. And if you are going to complain that your server doesn't have enough people, I already stated twice now that I think they should do a server merge.
You realize a server merge won't solve the problem in the absence of X-LFG, right?

It won't solve the problem on standard population servers (I'm on one, I know). It won't solve the problem on heavy pop servers off primetime hours. It may not solve the problem for flashpoints below 50 at primetime on heavy servers.

We are going to have to agree to disagree on the current LFG abor--- I mean tool. I'm glad you think it's useful. That's just not the case in the vast majority of instance and if it were, BioWare wouldn't be investing what seems like a lot of resources to improve it.

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Skidrowbro
05.03.2012 , 02:36 PM | #622
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
You realize a server merge won't solve the problem in the absence of X-LFG, right?

It won't solve the problem on standard population servers (I'm on one, I know). It won't solve the problem on heavy pop servers off primetime hours. It may not solve the problem for flashpoints below 50 at primetime on heavy servers.

We are going to have to agree to disagree on the current LFG abor--- I mean tool. I'm glad you think it's useful. That's just not the case in the vast majority of instance and if it were, BioWare wouldn't be investing what seems like a lot of resources to improve it.
Have you even searched the forums for servers that would fit your playstyle? Try it, it may even blow your mind what you can accomplish with some effort

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Jaxarale
05.03.2012 , 02:38 PM | #623
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No, I want SW:TOR to remain SW:TOR and not have them implement all the crap that is in every other MMO simply because people whine for it.
Unfortunatly for you... change is coming to Swtor... many of them that the devs said they would NOT put into the game...
xserver PVP queues (in game 1.3)
same server PVE queues (in game 1.3)
Combat logs logs (in game 1.2)

Its funny that your sig says what it does... its like you need DBM to tell you the train that is change is coming to Swtor and no matter how long you stand in front of it... its not going to stop.
These changes are factual, not some prediction... they were NEVER to be implemented into Swtor per the devs... and less than 4 months after launch... here they are.
Its not rocket science to see the company is run by numbers... the numbers want what they want... and BIG SUPRISE, you (the vocal minority) are being ignored because the numbers that drive the game want what they want.

You have fought a good fight, but there are just too many that want these things in their games now days... the proof is in what BW has already done that they swore for years they would never do...
It doesn't take a physic to see that this trend will continue...

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And as soon as the LFD became the norm in WoW, players burned out even faster. The turn around rate for players leaving because of boredom is phenominal
Really??? Even though 10 months after LFD was released WoW reached it highest subs numbers of all times...
When you tell a lie... make sure that the truth cant not be found out by a simple google search...

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DarthTHC
05.03.2012 , 02:38 PM | #624
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
It is only a "quality of life feature" because you are used to it and think you can not live without it. And the fact that you would not drive a car simply because it does not have power windows, this shows just how pompous you are.
Yep, you got me. It's a quality of life feature that I'm used to. However, you're also wrong. I know I can live without it, but I choose not to. Talking about X-LFG here. Why should I waste half the time I've allocated to gaming waiting to play the game? I have better things to do than that. For now, like I said, I'll do the class stories. But when I'm done with that, I certainly won't wait an unreasonable amount of time to run a flashpoint. Not when I know BW could implement a feature that removes that boring tedium. I'll take my money elsewhere, which is actually bad for BioWare, bad for the game, and bad for any other players who might want to experience group content with a skilled, friendly healer.

My demand for power windows shows that I have earned the ability to afford a car with power windows, I know it's a standard feature, and that I like the feature.

Is that pompous? dictionary.com says pompous is "characterized by an ostentatious display of dignity or importance".

I don't think I'm ostentatiously displaying dignity or importance by demanding power windows in cars I buy, so nope, not pompous.

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DarthTHC
05.03.2012 , 02:39 PM | #625
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
Have you even searched the forums for servers that would fit your playstyle? Try it, it may even blow your mind what you can accomplish with some effort
Find me an RP server more highly populated than the one I'm on and I'll move.

Hint: I'm on the highest populated RP server.

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Kemosobe
05.03.2012 , 02:41 PM | #626
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Yep, you got me. It's a quality of life feature that I'm used to. However, you're also wrong. I know I can live without it, but I choose not to.
Read that far and stopped caring. If you simply choose not to live without it, then go back to an MMO that has it and stop complaining that this MMO needs to conform to be a replica of every other MMO on the market simply for your sake of living.
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Curious how many would stand in the street staring down an oncoming garbage truck because they don't have DBM telling them to get out of the way.
Quote: Originally Posted by KROSSDARK View Post
Yeah I feel sorry for the devs. The new breed of gamers are so %$$#&^%

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Skidrowbro
05.03.2012 , 02:41 PM | #627
Quote: Originally Posted by Jaxarale View Post
Unfortunatly for you... change is coming to Swtor... many of them that the devs said they would NOT put into the game...
xserver PVP queues (in game 1.3)
same server PVE queues (in game 1.3)
Combat logs logs (in game 1.2)

Its funny that your sig says what it does... its like you need DBM to tell you the train that is change is coming to Swtor and no matter how long you stand in front of it... its not going to stop.
These changes are factual, not some prediction... they were NEVER to be implemented into Swtor per the devs... and less than 4 months after launch... here they are.
Its not rocket science to see the company is run by numbers... the numbers want what they want... and BIG SUPRISE, you (the vocal minority) are being ignored because the numbers that drive the game want what they want.

You have fought a good fight, but there are just too many that want these things in their games now days... the proof is in what BW has already done that they swore for years they would never do...
It doesn't take a physic to see that this trend will continue...
Wow, something that I can agree with you on. I already know they will. Money talks. Bioware can say no all they want but EA will say yes. And I know where my money will not be going and this will probably be the last online game that I will pay to play. I can get everything out of single player games that WoW, Rift, DDO, LotR have to offer.

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Skidrowbro
05.03.2012 , 02:42 PM | #628
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Find me an RP server more highly populated than the one I'm on and I'll move.

Hint: I'm on the highest populated RP server.
Sorry, I won't hold your hand.

And judging by your attitude here on these forums, it's pretty easy to figure out why you aren't getting groups.

Hint: Try being nice to other players and they might remove you from their ignore list

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Kemosobe
05.03.2012 , 02:44 PM | #629
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
Wow, something that I can agree with you on. I already know they will. Money talks. Bioware can say no all they want but EA will say yes. And I know where my money will not be going and this will probably be the last online game that I will pay to play. I can get everything out of single player games that WoW, Rift, DDO, LotR have to offer.
Yup, I was saying pre-early access that the first time Bioware adds simplicity to this game that I am leaving. If I wanted easy in an MMO, I would go back to WoW. Guess EA just wants SW:TOR to become another flawed replica that dies in a fire while shouting, "WE REGRET NOTHING!!"
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Curious how many would stand in the street staring down an oncoming garbage truck because they don't have DBM telling them to get out of the way.
Quote: Originally Posted by KROSSDARK View Post
Yeah I feel sorry for the devs. The new breed of gamers are so %$$#&^%

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DarthTHC
05.03.2012 , 02:45 PM | #630
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
Read that far and stopped caring. If you simply choose not to live without it, then go back to an MMO that has it and stop complaining that this MMO needs to conform to be a replica of every other MMO on the market simply for your sake of living.
That's exactly what I said I would do.

And if you had read further or do some thinking about it, you would also see that such a move, on a large scale, is very bad for this game.

If this game fails to implement features that the majority of the MMO audience expects, it will never be more than a niche player. It will be SWG all over again. Or I suppose they could innovate, but if the best they have is voiceovers, that's not going to cut it.

It does disappoint me. Except for the tedium of finding a group, I love this game. I'd love to keep paying to play. I just won't pay to wait.