Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

What?
Seriously?
The only thing that makes it become a "me" thing is the "me" behind the computer...
People now days are lazy, disrespectful, greedy, whiny, drama queens and want instant gratification with the minimum amount of work put in. I would have to disagree with you that the LFG tool in a video game made people this way...

And if you believe that the people in guilds actually care more about others than themselves... I have a bridge down in Florida that I can sell you for a nice price...

People join guilds to improve their toons faster and easier, they join them to kill bosses and get shiny purple pixels, they join them because their friends are in them and it makes it easier to group up and level so they can get those shiny purple pixels, they join guilds as a status symbol, they join guilds because "we" can get stuff done that the game does not allow "me" to by myself,
There are a very very few people that join guilds just for the interaction of the group... they may enjoy the interaction WHILE they level that toon and try and get more purple shiny things or kill bosses or for whatever their goal is in a game...

No one in this world does anything without some level of self motivation being involved...

Lulz

All anyone is doing here is asserting things to other people, it can all be reagrded as speculative on both sides of the argument, so shall we all just stop posting or does every post need to come from a verifiable sources and peer reviewed refererces with citations and relevent studies. It's an internet forum...

xLFG caters to the lowest common denominator. Blizzard heard our words, WOTLK dungeons were *********** boring. Every dungeon was exactly the same, hallway with 3 trash pulls, room with boss, repeat til end. Blizzard tried to make dungeons more interesting (ie just requiring basic situational awareness) for Cataclysm only to face an onslaught of tears from the children who can't deal with paying attention and focusing for five minutes. Everything had to be nerfed to below average so kids could watch power rangers while they dungeon grind.

First of all "friend" is a misnomer in these games. It's more "acquaintance" or "stranger you just spent a hour with clearing out a dungeon and didn't hate."

So to answer your loaded "why would'nt you want to share your email address with your friends?" question: I wouldn't have problem with "friends". Actual friends. People I knew and trusted. And I suspect most people wouldn't.

But that's not really who we are talking about here.

A LFG Tool (Auto Group) makes looking for groups for Flashpoints/Planet heroics easier.

1. It doesn't punish guilds, because two or more guild members can group up, then hit the LFG tool for the other members/roles that they need.
1a. It would make it easier when you find 3 people on a planet ready to run, but have to spend 20+ minutes trying to find a 3rd.

2. LFG Tool would make it a whole heck of a lot easier for the non guilded/non location player to find a group to run with. (you wouldn't have to stay on the planet looking for a group for a planet specific group, you could go to fleet, head to your ship, etc.)

3. It would allow MORE people to play the game/quest/farm while waiting for a group to be built since it wouldn't require standing around in Fleet spamming General Chat with LFG messages.

4. It would allow players on low pop servers to participate in Flashpoints/Planet Heroics while actually AT that level because a Xserver tool would be able to pool players from both high and low pop servers.
4a. One of the biggest problems with low pop servers is the lack of people to group with for running Flashpoints and Planet Heroics.

Clearly there are restrictions that can be built into place to prevent some of the issues that are inherent with Xserver Auto Grouping.

A. need before greed would make the item BoP instead of BoE to help prevent Ninja Looting.

B. being able to need only on items that the toon you are on can actually use.
B1. A light armor wearer would be prevented from Needing on Heavy Armor items, etc.

C. The only Flashpoints/Heroics available to the group would be based on the lowest lvl character

D. you could pick between Random or Specific Flashpoint/Heroic when you use the LFG/Auto Group tool.


No, this post isn't about hating the LFG/Auto Group Tool, these are my reasons, and would like to see's for an LFG/Auto Group tool and more specifically, why I wouldn't, personally, hate to see one implemented.

It's not about me putting them on ignore. This isn't a self-centered issue for me. It's about the health of the server, both economy and community. And why am I going to report a RMT/gold seller if I happened to be the one making the transaction, lol? I wouldn't know what was happening otherwise.

Yes they currently exist. That's like saying we shouldn't police for robbers because they're already happening. Giving them a tool to do their business more efficiently isn't smart.

Neither of which I am doing, this is all opinion, see previous post, speculative bla bla bla...

Problem with LFG system is not that you get to play with people you don't know or that you end up partying with morons. Hell, if there is morons playing game problem is in game.

I played Rift about half of year, I never had bad party there even though I did most of the instances via LFG tool.
After Rift I went back to WoW and in first day I met 4-5 bad groups.

I dare to say that problems from LFG tool started when Blizzard decided to make Wotlks heroics short and easy. Sadly they implemented this revolutionary tool in Wotlk too. These 2 combined was awful, basically tank could solo intances and actually be best damage dealer too.

Sadly this all did give birth to new kind of gamers who demanted that instances has to be easy and short. This lead to situation where Catas instances were even easier (well not at start)...

Now imagine system where what ever you do you get rewarded. Would you be social? Would you work hard? Hell, I myself stopped talking in wow mostly because after 100th run in same instances people turned to numbers. I didn't care about them as a tank and they didn't care about me unless something stupid happened.

And this is whats wrong with LFG system. To make it short: LFG tool works if game is hard enough and instances aren't loot vending machines.

Same in damage meter too btw, it is abused only if a) people are unsure about themselves or b) everything is too easy.

See the response Ferroz gave to this subject......

"....So... what game are you talking about where this is true?

It's certainly not WoW... you can't transfer items via cross server lfg in wow."

And the real "police" has to be BioWare. All the players can do it is report other players for suspects of being a gold farmer. And you do know players in a pug group can be kicked? I have seen this happen often in the pug raids I have done.

For me, I could care less about building a community. I just want to play the game and enjoy all aspects of it. Standing around and typing over and over again in general chat that Im looking for a group with the the little LFG icon over my head for lord knows how long is not fun to me so therefore I do not do it. I have tried it and really got bored of it after about 30 minutes. If you want to meet people there are plenty of online dating web sites you can subscribe to. If you are having to play a game to meet people there is something wrong there.

I say give me the LFG tool. I dont care if it is same server or cross server. I just want to be able to do flashpoints without having to do as I described above. Booooooorrrrrrrinnnnngggggg!!!!!: